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Requirements for RPL submission to ACS

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stephencampbell - 31 Jan 2005 00:52 GMT
I believe I need to do an RPL, and have just started looking into what's
required. On the RPL form, the ACS seem to be asking for a detailed write-
up on the CBOK. I've read a few posts which talk about the 2 project
reports required, and there seems to be a large emphasis on these in
some threads. However, from the RPL form, it seems to me that these
project reports are fairly insignificant compared to the CBOK. My IT
experience runs to 16 years, and it feels that it will take forever to
write in detail about it.

Can anyone tell me how many pages they've written on the CBOK ?

Is it mandatory ?

Should I include all CBOK topics which I have experience of ?

Thanks,
Sad, unappreciated, frustrated scotsman
Spoofy - 31 Jan 2005 02:36 GMT
> I believe I need to do an RPL, and have just started looking into
> what's required. On the RPL form, the ACS seem to be asking for a
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> Thanks,
> Sad, unappreciated, frustrated scotsman

Hi,  I wrote 11 pages on the CBOK (RPL application form) including a
bibliography of books read, journals etc.  This was in addition to the 2
* 1000 word project reports.  I'm don't know if this was too much but I
got approved just before Christmas.  I think the main thing is to show
what you have learnt over your career, how your methods have changed,
how you keep up to date with new technologies etc rather than just
listing off what you did.  I did repeat a fair bit in the CBOK on my
project reports also.  Hope this helps!
Alex Hall - 31 Jan 2005 08:20 GMT
> I believe I need to do an RPL, and have just started looking into
> what's required. On the RPL form, the ACS seem to be asking for a
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> Thanks,
> Sad, unappreciated, frustrated scotsman

I presume you do not have an IT degree which is why you are taking the
RPL approach?

The project reports are of importance, however in my experience they
were the easiest part to write!  I chose one project from around 3 years
ago and one more recent one. Wrote approx 1000 words on each and then
attached a couple of screenshots as appendices. Yes they are mandatory
and I think with your experience should be fairly straight forward.

I struggled a little more with the CBOK at first, luckily my agent was
very helpful (thanks George!). I would say my CBOK doc was a little over-
done, if I recall correctly it ended up being around 80 odd pages. I
would say that it is more than possible to complete the CBOK in 40 pages
(or less). Then again I say "better safe than sorry", I expect my
assessor fell asleep part way through and just passed me anyway or
jumped in terror when they saw the size of it.

However I have worked in a variety of IT programming roles and projects
including sales and am happy writing proposals and other professional
documents. I also included some Table of Contents from specifications
and proposals I had written, some brief code snippets and some screen
shots and plans etc.

I ended up writing about 8 of the CBOK areas:

Conceptual Modeling
Data Structures and Algorithms
Ethical/Social Implications/Professional Practice
Interpersonal Communications
Program Design and Implementation
Project Management
Software Engineering and Methodologies
Systems Analysis and Design

I had added a couple of others however, in the end on the advice of my
agent, I removed them as although I thought I had enough knoweldge on
those subjects it wasn't coming across in the writing properly.

The key thing with doing the CBOK is to write about WHAT YOU HAVE LEARNT
not what you have done, sounds easy, yet I found it very frustrating!!!

Good luck, I found once the CBOK was done the rest of the visa process
seemed rather simple!

:)

alex
wargod - 31 Jan 2005 09:33 GMT
> I presume you do not have an IT degree which is why you are taking the
> RPL approach?
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>
> alex

Just to say that i did pretty much exactly the same as Alex - and i
totally agree with the frustrating bit. I found it difficult to know at
what level to pitch the reports at in the end i think i wrote one at a
very basic level another at a slightly more advanced level and the final
one (yes i did three!!)  in depth discussing normalisation of databases,
White box vs Black box  testing, datatypes and differences between them,
model view controller etc, etc etc....  As a footnote for each of the
reports i added a little 'what i learnt from this development'  i.e i
learnt to investigate further and ask different questions etc..

Good luck
wargod - 31 Jan 2005 13:28 GMT
> Just to say that i did pretty much exactly the same as Alex - and i
> totally agree with the frustrating bit. I found it difficult to know
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>
> Good luck

Just to put in in context - my entire submission  (inc passport pages,
certificates etc, etc..) came in at a little over 1 kilo  in weight !!!!
wmoore - 31 Jan 2005 13:15 GMT
> I believe I need to do an RPL, and have just started looking into
> what's required. On the RPL form, the ACS seem to be asking for a
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> Thanks,
> Sad, unappreciated, frustrated scotsman

Can't remember how many pages mine ran to but it was 14,000+ words, plus
the two x 1000 word project reports.
I wrote something for evey topic I knew something about (I think I wrote
something for 13 or 14 topics, though some were a bit short). As the
others have said, the key thing is to show what you learned along the
way and how you learned it, not just what you did. I've heard people say
they wrote about as few as 8 of the CBOK topics and got a pass so I
couldn't say (and I doubt anyone else could) how much ACS require
specifically.
I pitched mine at somebody with above average technical knowledge and
like one of the others said, I pity the poor guy who had to digest it!
stephencampbell - 31 Jan 2005 23:50 GMT
> I believe I need to do an RPL, and have just started looking into
> what's required. On the RPL form, the ACS seem to be asking for a
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> Thanks,
> Sad, unappreciated, frustrated scotsman

Thanks to those of you who replied.

Yes I don't have an IT degree, hence the dreaded RPL. I was however
anticipating a different route up until last week - the BCS one. I had
joined the BCS in September, then applied for Chartered status, which
was granted on 21/01/05. All too easy I was thinking, as this would have
satisfied the qualifications criteria. At least, that is, until I was
hit with the bombshell that they no longer accept BCS - apparently
because it's too easy to become chartered !!

So with hindsight I could have ignored the BCS, and started the RPL 4
months ago, and (maybe) had it finished by now. But, I'll just get on
and slog through it.

SUFS.
 
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