> firstly you need to get your trade assessed. What trade are you in?
> I'm a bar manager. With a degree in hospitality management.
>
> Can I get a trade assessment done that far in advance? Does it
> expire?
not as far as I know - i dont belive they expire but an agent would be
able to advise better than I.
I have had a look at www.abs.gov.au for you - that is the Australian
Statistics Bureau who hold the "standard" job descriptions which is
a great starting point...... Bar manage isn't there but "Club
Manager" is...
3324-11 Club Manager (Licensed Premises)
Organises and controls the operation of licensed clubs in providing
food, drink, entertainment, sporting and other amenities for members.
Skill Level:
The entry requirement for this occupation is an AQF Diploma or higher
qualification or at least 3 years relevant experience. In some instances
relevant experience is required in addition to the formal qualification.
Registration or licensing is required.
Tasks Include:
plans and supervises sporting, gaming and entertainment activities
supervises security arrangements and property maintenance
plans and supervises bar, restaurant and function activities
selects, trains and supervises staff
arranges member subscriptions
observes liquor, gaming and other laws and regulations
ensures compliance with occupational health and safety regulations
compiles and organises distribution of newsletters and other information
to keep members informed of forthcoming events and facilities available
assesses and reviews member satisfaction and preferences
liaises with community groups sponsored and assisted by the club
The only problem is that this job (classification 3324-11) is not on
the SOL (Skilled Occupations List) which your trade must be to apply
as Skilled.
A way may be to check out http://www.vetassess.com.au/ as they assess
people with degrees.
claire
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JAJ - 31 Dec 2005 17:56 GMT
> not as far as I know - i dont belive they expire but an agent would be
> able to advise better than I.
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> claire
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Vetassess will issue an assessment for a SOL occupation based on a
degree, but if recent work experience is not in a SOL occupation then
(unless you are an eligible Australian graduate) then DIMIA will refuse
the migration application.
The original poster ought to get some professional assistance to see
what options may be available, although it's not looking too hopeful
based on the information supplied.
Jeremy

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Shona - 31 Dec 2005 18:25 GMT
> Vetassess will issue an assessment for a SOL occupation based on a
> degree, but if recent work experience is not in a SOL occupation then
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> Jeremy
Thank you both for your assistance. It's very much appreciated.
I have been informed that although my job title is Bar Manager this is
the same as Hotel or Motel Manager, which is on the SOL. See below:
Hotel or Motel Manager (Degree level) [Hotelier, Publican, Accommodation
Manager, Functions Manager, Resort Manager] 3323-11 VETASSESS 50
Hotel or Motel Manager (Diploma level) [as above] 3323-11 VETASSESS 40
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However, maybe I have not fully understood what I have read......
JAJ - 31 Dec 2005 18:28 GMT
> Thank you both for your assistance. It's very much appreciated.
>
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>
> However, maybe I have not fully understood what I have read......
You should get good professional assistance to discuss this further.
You should also consider the points test for the various visas.
If you do apply for migration, DIMIA will look closely at your work
experience to see what you really do.
Jeremy

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Jonahs_mummy - 31 Dec 2005 19:21 GMT
> Vetassess will issue an assessment for a SOL occupation based on a
> degree, but if recent work experience is not in a SOL occupation then
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> Jeremy
a wealth of knowledge as always Jeremy! :)
BTW: Happy New Year!
CathnPaul - 31 Dec 2005 19:53 GMT
> not as far as I know - i dont belive they expire but an agent would be
> able to advise better than I.
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> claire
> x
Its nice to see someone going out of their way to help someone out
like this Claire... all the best for 2006...hope you find out what you
need Shona.
Jonahs_mummy - 31 Dec 2005 20:00 GMT
> Its nice to see someone going out of their way to help someone out
> like this Claire... all the best for 2006...hope you find out what you
> need Shona.
Same to you !
I hope 2006 brings you what your heart desires!
Claire
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