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Mauro - 23 Mar 2007 20:39 GMT
Hi all,
I'm moving to Melborne within few months, and I'm concerned about
searching a room there!
The plan is to go there, stay in hotel (or a such temporary
accommodation) and looking around for the room, a room with shared
facilities goes well, I guess, since I'll be a student, rather old,
but still a student ;-)
By the way, I will be busy once I will arrive there, so I wish I can
solve the housing problem before going there, maybe with internet.
Do you have any suggestion?
I really don't know how to to start, but I want to do somethings
before arriving there, I don't have such big money.
I wish also to know, how expensive is a room in Melbourne? (I'm
searching somethings in Melbourne North, not far from the hospital)
and how it is the most common way to get a room in Melobourne?
Nevertheless, I think I will need a car once I will be there, so I'm
looking around to search an old mess car to buy. But for I haven't any
starting point for that problem also!

Any hint is really appreciated!
I really don't know how to start, and I'm a bit scared: I don't know
anybody, I won't have a place to sleep... and after 23 hours of flight
the situation could be quite frustrating, I guess!
Last (but not least) I'm really addicted to swimming, and I feel home
once I found a swimming pool where I can swim. I'm sure in Melbourne I
won't have such problem, it can be nice if you can confirm that!
there is on the web a sort of "Melbourne survival"? I really don't
know anything about Australia, I come from Italy... and there anything
is different I guess. Am I right?

thanks a lot!
Mauro
AlmostBob - 23 Mar 2007 23:20 GMT
In the center of Melbourne: Melbourne City baths, good pool & spa tubs
http://melbourne.citysearch.com.au/

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> Hi all,
> I'm moving to Melborne within few months, and I'm concerned about
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> thanks a lot!
> Mauro
tina_lb - 26 Mar 2007 12:25 GMT
> Hi all,
> I'm moving to Melborne within few months, and I'm concerned about
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> thanks a lot!
> Mauro

Hey Mauro,

you can solve your problem online. don't worry it's not actually a
problem, anyone going independent will face the same fear and
situation. good you are going to Melbourne cause it is loaded with
Italians! i've been there for 2 days only while i was on a trip to
Sydney. Believe me you dont want to stay in a hotel i paid a fortune
during my stay in Melbourne.
anyway if you have the visa already and you know when you are actually
going, i suggest you check
www.realestate.com.au and look for Share if you want to share a room
(fully furnished usually), or Rent if you want to rent on your own
(unfurnished usually) and the price is per week. Also check www.domain.com.au
and www.gumtree.com.au

if you have more questions and if you need help, don't hestate to ask
me.

Good luck,
Tina
Mauro - 27 Mar 2007 01:09 GMT
First of all, thanks very much for your kindness and for the
encouraging words!
The three web sites you gave me are exactly what I was searching
about!
A really good starting point!!

> if you have more questions and if you need help, don't hestate to ask
> me.

right away ;-)
what about the currency changes? Better to change before going in
Australia, or one I'll be there? Mhmmm... but maybe it is better to
ask that in another NG or to my bank... but if you have experience
with that any suggestion is welcome!

About cars and public transport... the 30 Australian dollars at week
are for any public transport facility? (I mean: trains, buses,
underground trains, etc.)
I have to stay 9 months, so for 9 months 30x4x9=1080 Australian
dollars.
If I buy a car (let's say 500$) + insurance (??? 300$ I guess) + other
expences (???) I'm around 1000$ I guess.
In 9 months I can spend 500$ with fuel, and I can sell the car at
(let's say) 420$ (I know to who I can sell it: an italian guy who will
go to Melbourne when I will go back).
So the actual price of the car (inclusive of fuel) can be around
1080$, exactly what I'm gonna spend with public transportation, maybe
a bit more, but with more degree of freedom. Unfortunately I cannot
work there (my visa doesn't permit any extra work) so I have to
survive with my italian scholarship, but I've done some calculations
and it seems I can afford 2000$ for transportation (maybe a little bit
more, but not so much more). Do you think it is a crazy idea to look
for a car? I'm used to cycle, is it handy to use bicycle to move in
Melbourne?

cheers,
Mauro
tina_lb - 27 Mar 2007 08:24 GMT
I'm sorry Mauro I didn't know you were going there on a student visa,
so here goes what you need to know.
A student visa allows you to work 20 hrs/week maximum and you are
subject to pay higher tax, for example my friend who went to study in
Sydney back in 2003, found a casual job and she was earning 16$/hr but
with tax deducted she was actually earning 13$/hour.
Now regarding transport, if you insist on buying a car then do it, I
don't know how much a minimum car costs there but you should
definitely pay for insurance and mechanic. It is really hard to find a
place to park unless if you go for private parking and well if you
sneeze in Australia you pay, so imagine how much a parking rate is!!!
Very expensive, so if you want to buy a car you have to take into
consideration some hidden costs that you are not aware of. Besides
being a student gives you a bonus, because everything you purchase
(transport cards, cinema tickets, books, fast food...) is subject to a
discount if you show your student card.
If you want to purchase a cheap car, go to www.ebay.com.au
And if you want to check transport rates, go to http://www.metlinkmelbourne.com.au/
it shows you rates per day, per week, per season, and per year...rates
varies if you want a card for all transportation facilities (rail,
buses, ferries) or if you want it from station X to station Y also
varies...there's a wide choice and prices. And please consider going for
a driving license, international driving license are acceptable for 3
months only, then you need to go for a test, more information are
available on http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au
As for currencies, exchanging money in Australia is a total rip off,
what you can do is, and if you have your visa, and if you know
approximately when are you going to be in Australia, you can open a
bank account online with any Australian Bank, you need to fill an
online application form with your name, passport number and home
address, they will ask you when you intend to come to Australia, you
don't need to give an exact date, just give an approximately date,
within 2 weeks, you will receive a package from the bank with a
temporary account number under your name, you can transfer money to
this account from your bank in Italy, and once you land in Australia,
you have 6 weeks to make appear in the bank to activate your account,
why 6 weeks? Because within 6 weeks the bank will only need your
passport to activate your account, after 6 weeks of time you need
another ID.
100 USD = approximately 130 AUD
For example if you want to open a bank account with national Australia
bank, go to:
http://www.national.com.au/Personal_Finance/0,,69196,00.html#applyOs

voila,
enjoy these info

Tina
William - 27 Mar 2007 23:55 GMT
> I'm sorry Mauro I didn't know you were going there on a student visa,
> so here goes what you need to know.
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>
> Tina

One suggestion on the bank.

Commonwealth Bank would NOT take just my passport in the first 6 weeks
because I had other tourist stamps for Australia in my passport. They
argued that I could have been here longer and they had no way of
knowing. I had to argue all the way to the top but they said it was
thier policy and they would do nothing.

Also, the best way to do foreign transfer is to use someone like
Ozforex. (www.ozforex.com) Really easy system to use once you have
your Australian bank account set up. Good exchange rate, fee very low
built in to exchange rate. I've moved somwhere around $150,000 AUD
that way. All you really pay is your bank's transfer fee, which you
would have to pay anyway on a foreign wire transfer.

Greg
Mauro - 28 Mar 2007 17:54 GMT
> enjoy these info

WOW!
Exaustive and complete! I feel in less panic, now!

Thanks to you (and to the others who replied!)

cheers,
Mauro
AlmostBob - 28 Mar 2007 01:49 GMT
You will not get a registerable car for $500, $2000-3000 minimum
insurance will be closer to $3000 than $300, no insurance history in Oz
the junker you buy will not be fuel efficient,
fuel in Oz is over $1 /litre
so unless you arent going anywhere, $500 is unrealistically optimistic
parking is $10-12  per day
Way more than the $1000 you imagine

You can take a bike with you no charge on public transport trains,
and it is all buses trains trams for 1 ticket price,
month  tickets are cheaper still
http://www.melbtrip.com/fares/metcard.php#periodical
get a bike, ride the train

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> First of all, thanks very much for your kindness and for the
> encouraging words!
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> cheers,
> Mauro
Mark - 28 Mar 2007 02:54 GMT
> You can take a bike with you no charge on public transport trains,
> and it is all buses trains trams for 1 ticket price,
> month tickets are cheaper still
> http://www.melbtrip.com/fares/metcard.php#periodical
> get a bike, ride the train

You can do this in Perth to but not during peek travel (ie, whe
everyone is going to work). Does the same not apply in Melbourne?

Cheers

Mar

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Mar
AlmostBob - 28 Mar 2007 20:45 GMT
Officially,
According to the Metlink Fares and Travel Guide:
http://www.viclink.com.au/fares_tickets/faqs#faq1211

Bicycles and surfboards may be carried free of charge on metropolitan trains
but are not permitted on buses and trams. Petrol-driven vehicles are not
permitted on Melbourne's trains, trams or buses. Passengers travelling with
bicycles or surfboards are requested to avoid using peak hour trains where
possible.
Off peak times for trains are:-
Monday to Friday before 7am, and between 9.30am and 4pm, after 6pm and all
day on Saturdays, Sundays and Public Holidays

requested, no regulations requiring it

in practice maybe, maybe not
I took a folding bike in both peak hours every day for years,
Aircraft to Flinders St,
rode from Flinders street station to Victoria Bks
got ticket checks as often as everybody else and the spooks didnt do
anything about the bike
smile, uniform, no problems

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> > You can take a bike with you no charge on public transport trains,
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>
> Mark
Mauro - 28 Mar 2007 18:06 GMT
On Mar 28, 2:49 am, "AlmostBob" <anonymo...@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:

> Way more than the $1000 you imagine

wow!
I've underextimate the car's price! I've followed a suggestion of a
guy from Melbourne who lives here, he put im my mid the idea of the
car because he thinks is possible to find a car for 500 AUD... but
10-12 AUD of parking + a lot for insurance... well... it is better to
use public transportation and rent a car to move around time by time
since my budget for transportation is around 2200AUD....

> get a bike, ride the train

good hint.. I will do it!

cheers,
Mauro
tina_lb - 26 Mar 2007 12:30 GMT
one more thing, regarding the car, i dont advice you to buy one right
away. at least not before you secure you have a well paid job because
some companies offer transport, and besides you have trams, trains,
buses and Taxis...you get get a weekly pass ticket that can be
purchased for less than 30AUD and allows you to use public transport
unlimited for a week...very reliable and cheaper than owning a car.

cheers, Tina
AIEC - 27 Mar 2007 18:03 GMT
Hi there,

Try this http://www.gumtree.com.au I checked out and they have a lot
of temp accommodation advertised.

Cheers Andrew
http://www.aiec.biz

Mauro ?rta:
> Hi all,
> I'm moving to Melborne within few months, and I'm concerned about
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> thanks a lot!
> Mauro
 
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