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Moving to Australia in 2 months time, but jobless?

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cal - 15 Nov 2007 14:24 GMT
Ok, this sounds crazy, but I just quit my job, and I've decided to leav
my country and head to Australia to look for a job.

Problem is, am I being too optimistic?

I'm an IT person doing firewalls, linux and networks for 3-4 yrs.. an
I've not decided where to go next, melbourne or sydney?

I've been to both mel and syd before and I don't have specifi
preference over either.

Which area has better opportunity for someone like me?

Thanks in advance

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ca
kangaroo16 - 16 Nov 2007 01:59 GMT
>Ok, this sounds crazy, but I just quit my job, and I've decided to leave
>my country and head to Australia to look for a job.
>
>Problem is, am I being too optimistic?

Not necessarily.  When I originally  came here I had no job
arranged, no arrangements for a place to stay, didn't know
anyone here.  I was still pretty confident that would find
something.

>I'm an IT person doing firewalls, linux and networks for 3-4 yrs.. and
>I've not decided where to go next, melbourne or sydney?
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>
>Which area has better opportunity for someone like me?

Hard to say.  Have you had a look at online ads for
jobs here?  Will quote from one of my earlier posts.

---------------------------------
Internet job ads hit record level

A new survey has shown Internet job advertisements were up 3 per
cent in August to a new record of 360,000. ...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/09/03/2021938.htm

For I.T. jobs Google
I.T. jobs australia

Some links:
ICT / IT Recruitment
www.HitechAust.com      View All Sorts Of ICT/IT Positions &
Enquire Online! Australia Wide
IT Jobs - Australia

www.eFinancialCareers.com.au      Recruitment in IT for
technology professionals in Australia
SEEK - Australia's no. 1 jobs, employment, career and recruitment
site
SEEK is Australia's number one jobs site. Search or browse jobs
across Australia. Find work or recruit the ideal candidate. SEEK
and you shall find.
www.seek.com.au/ - 50k - Cached - Similar pages
Jobs Australia

Jobs, Employment & Careers @ My Career
MyCareer provides job search and employment opportunities in
Australia. Search for jobs by location, job sector, industry or
salary to find your dream job.
mycareer.com.au/ - Similar pages
JobServe Homepage
Search JobServe for over 50000 permanent jobs, contract jobs and
temporary jobs advertised weekly, covering jobs in all industry
sectors.
www.jobserve.com.au/ - 61k - Cached - Similar pages

Christian Jobs Australia - Christian Job Search - Christian
Careers
Christian Jobs Australia is Australia's largest Christian Job
Search and Career website with more than 1200 Christian
Employers.
www.christianjobs.com.au/ - 28k - Cached - Similar pages
SEEK IT - Australia's no. 1 IT jobs, employment and career site
SEEK IT is Australia's number one information technology job
search site. Search or browse jobs across Australia. Find work or
recruit the ideal candidate.
it.seek.com.au/ - 64k - Cached - Similar pages

Engineering Jobs
Part of the ExpatJob.net Group, Engineering Jobs Australia is
Australia and New Zealand's most comprehensive engineering
recruitment portal, ...
www.engineeringjobs.net.au/ - 33k - Cached - Similar pages
Jobs and Employment in Australia - bojob
Browse employment opportunities in Australia by work type,
location or keywords. Employers list jobs for free.
www.bojob.com.au/ - 11k - Cached - Similar pages

Research Jobs Australia - Research and Development Employment
Service
Research Jobs Research and Development Employment Service -
Currently available positions in R&D across Australia.
www.researchjobs.net.au/ - 18k - Cached - Similar pages
Job Search - Australian jobs - Job listing - Find a job -
CareerOne
Includes listings of jobs in Australia like accounting jobs,
administration jobs, HR jobs, hospitality jobs, IT jobs, customer
service jobs and many more ...
www.careerone.com.au/ - 47k - Cached - Similar pages

Possibly some of these will be helpful.  If not there are
over 9,000,000 other returns. :-)

If Google the page though, there are also a lot of sponsored
links.

Cheers,
Kangaroo16
Mark - 17 Nov 2007 00:15 GMT
Hey Cal, Well done :

Have you thought about Perth? The IT market in Perth is crazy at th
moment and I recon you should have no problems finding work quickly

Have a quick look at some of the Aussie recruitment sites to get a
idea of current vacancies

You may be able to set up an interview over the phone before you ge
out there

Useful Sites

http://www.seek.com.au
http://www.jobserve.com.au

Average earnings in the state may drive where you decide to settle to

http://tinyurl.com/2fojy

Again, I know that Perth IT salaries are very good at the moment

Good luck and let us know how you get on

Cheer

Mar

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Mar
kangaroo16 - 17 Nov 2007 02:53 GMT
>Hey Cal, Well done :D
>
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>You may be able to set up an interview over the phone before you get
>out there.

Definitely a good suggestion.  If Cal is really persuasive, might
even get the potential employer to meet some of his expenses,
help him find housing, etc.  

It seems to be a "sellers market" for job seekers at the moment.
See:
http://www.careerone.com.au/jobs/job-search/job-market-insider/Recruiters-reinve
nt-rules


>Useful Sites:
>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
>Mark

Cheers,
Kangaroo16
kangaroo16 - 17 Nov 2007 05:43 GMT
Further thoughts, Cal.

>Ok, this sounds crazy, but I just quit my job, and I've decided to leave
>my country and head to Australia to look for a job.
>
>Problem is, am I being too optimistic?

Consider a line with one end labeled "Extreme Specialist" and the
other end "Extreme Generalist".  Asked to mark where on that line
you consider yourself to fall, where would you mark it?

Are you searching only for a position that exactly matches your
experience and knowledge, or would you consider a related job
that you haven't tried before?

Have been looking around the large careerone.com website.
Checked a list of IT job classifications and vacancies:
http://searchjobs.careerone.com.au/search/categories/IT_-_T.html

Click on any that would suit you for more info, including # of
current openings by location.  I tried "software engineer" and
found that largest number of openings were #  NSW 800
# VIC 347 .  A search for your specialties might give you an
indication whether Sydney or Melbourne might be a better choice.
.... Although with that number, you should be able to pick and
choose.

The main site, www.careerone.com.au has all sorts of sub sites
giving information and tips on job hunting in general.

That's about all the job info for the moment.  

If you are willing to decide to change countries, and act on this
decision, you strike me as having a pretty flexible outlook.  

Most migrants love Australia, and think that coming here was the
best decision they ever made.  A certain percentage return, no
idea what percentage.  

I suspect that many simply have trouble adjusting to a new
environment.  The U.K., U.S. & Australia do have a lot in common,
but there are significant differences as well.  I've never even
visited the U.K, but assume it is much like the U.S. in having
four distinct seasons.  Spring, summer, fall, & winter.  In
spring, life springs anew from the snow, the onset of fall is
marked by autumn leaves changing colour.

In Sydney, migrants wouldn't see the same phenomena.  In most of
greater Sydney, it seldom gets down to freezing point of zero C
or 32 F.  If it does on a few days of the year, perhaps a bit of
frost, a very thin layer of ice on puddles of water.  Snow?  Even
snowflakes falling makes the news.  They usually melt as soon as
they strike the ground.  If it does form a thin layer that lasts
for a few hours, that is real news!  

Most native trees and plants don't change color over winter. Most
are evergreens.  In other words, there are no sharp
distinctions of seasons, unless live in an area that has a lot of
imported tree varieties.  Just a slow sine curve of falling
average temperature as summer fades to "winter", which gradually
changes to summer.  To put it another way, the passage of years
is not so obvious.  

Then too, the seasons are reversed, and Christmas day is
summertime.  I don't doubt that some migrants miss snowdrifts in
winter.  I'm not one of them, though!

If migrants have any interest in nature, Australia is full of
delightful surprises.  All native animals are marsupial, not
placental mammals.  All mammals here, such as rabbits, foxes,
dingos, camels, water buffalo were introduced.  About 80% of
flowering plants are native to this area of the world.  Many
species of orchids grow wild.  Flowers tend to be rather
extravagantly large and showy.  Some insects grow a lot larger.

"Stick insects" occur naturally in all three countries, but ours
are a bit larger, up to 25 cm = 250 mm = 25 centimeters ~= 9.84
inches.  Photo at:
http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://www.ento.csiro.au/aicn/images/c
ain2742.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.ento.csiro.au/aicn/name_c/a_4337.htm&h=350&w=30
0&sz=28&hl=en&start=44&tbnid=HSg3VNj4u4lIDM:&tbnh=120&tbnw=103&prev=/images%3Fq%
3Dstick%2Binsects%2Blargest%26start%3D40%26gbv%3D2%26ndsp%3D20%26svnum%3D10%26hl
%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26channel%3Ds%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa
%3DN

or, more simply,
http://tinyurl.com/26n7yz

From memory, around 95% of Australian species have never
been scientifically classified.  If an amateur naturalist wants
to get a new insect species named after them, Australia offers a
lot of opportunities.  Actually, some new species of frogs were
recently discovered.

Australia is the only country in the world with herds of wild
camels.  Parrots aren't found only in zoos or cages, there are
many of them about, of various species.  The more common
ones like Galahs and Cocatoos fly around in sizable flocks.
Parakeets?  Have seen flocks of hundreds roosting in a single
tree.  

Cheers,
Kangaroo16

>I'm an IT person doing firewalls, linux and networks for 3-4 yrs.. and
>I've not decided where to go next, melbourne or sydney?
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>Thanks in advance!
cal - 17 Nov 2007 18:55 GMT
Thanks for the links Mark

I will try to see if I can secure a few interviews before I head over
Because the distance between the 3 states isn't exactly that close.  :

But frankly, I'm pretty low maintenance, my objective is actually t
get away from my current place... and be in Australia, just anywhere i
Australia will do!  :

(and no, I'm not trying to run away from angry mobs of ex-girlfriends
:D:

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ca
cal - 07 Aug 2008 05:12 GMT
Just want to update this thread to say I've successfully moved, at leas
twice ;)

once to melbourne in Jan then subsequently to Sydney last month

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ca
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laurent - 07 Aug 2008 16:31 GMT
On Aug 7, 5:12 am, cal <cal.3dr...@advice.forums.gettingdownunder.com>
wrote:
> Just want to update this thread to say I've successfully moved, at least
> twice ;)
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> cal
> Posted via the forums athttp://www.gettingdownunder.com

nice, did you get a job? and how do you find the IT job market these
days?
calNgary - 08 Aug 2008 02:06 GMT
Hi ,just wanted to say we share the same name!!!lol
Cal

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calNgar
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ivory - 08 Aug 2008 02:38 GMT
Hi,

Can you share how exactly does 'Aussie style' CV looks like?  I do kno
that nowadays a one-page CV is preferred.  Thanks:blin

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ivor
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Cheryse - 08 Aug 2008 10:04 GMT
I don't have a template that I can provide - refer to a site lik
seek.com.au - you can upload a CV and view the format that it display
in as a reference

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