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Immigration Forum / Australia and NZ / November 2007newbie question
Hello All, I am a newbie and am learning as much as I can from the posts here. I am presently in U.S. and working in legal visa status and want t immigrate to Australia permanently. I have looked at the site http://tinyurl.com/yqqynk My qualifications are as below I have a Bachelor's in Computer Engineering from India, Master's i Computer Science from a U.S. university, 30 months working as graduate assistant in the field of Computers part time 20hrs/week whil I was pursuing my Masters from the U.S. university and 9 months ful time as a Programmer Analyst for a U.S. company. Can my part time wor experience be counted for the two year work requirement needed fo skilled workers to accumulate points and meet the two year requirement All the work experience was acquired in the past 3 years. If so, then i appears I can qualify as a skilled immigrant worker else not a present. I can accumulate 140 pts if my part time work experience is allowed t be counted for the work experience of 2 years in the field else no. M present age is 26. Is obtaining clearance certificates from U.S. typically hard whic seems to be needed http://tinyurl.com/2uojl5 Considering the fact I am on visa in U.S it may take a lot longer t obtain them and I am unclear if they will issue it for people who wer on visa. Any suggestions on how to hasten this would be appreciated. What would be the typical time frame for people like me approximately Browsing the http://tinyurl.com/2ercqk link shows it is about 18 months from the day you apply at presen which might increase or decrease? Is the employment situation in Australia favorable for technolog professionals at present? I recognize the Australian government i touting that it requires skilled professionals, but is the situatio actually favorable for people like me? Can anyone please clarify? Thanks a lot -- mia Hi! We're Americans and through with Immigration: It took us 2 weeks fo FBI and 10 days for Police clearance for Virginia and Utah. We wrot "please expedite" on the FBI application envelope. For FBI, go t http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/fprequest.htm. Get your fingerprints at local police station (we did it on a US base because we're in Japan) Send it in with the application form. It's surprisingly easy. Fo clearances, do a search online for the State you need. In som instances you can even show up at their offices. Good luck. It all ma look like a monster enterprise but with your background you'll have n problems Anne&Dave and kid -- AnnieDav AnnieDave;173033 Wrote: > Hi! We're Americans and through with Immigration: It took us 2 weeks fo > FBI and 10 days for Police clearance for Virginia and Utah. We wrot [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > problems. > Anne&Dave and kids Thanks Annie, For people(non U.S citizens) like to get a driver's license in U.S. i takes about 30 days. So, I thought police clearance it might take lo longer than that and I don't know if my visa status in U.S. would b impacted due to that. Can someone please advise about the typical time frame to get a vis under the skilled migration category and employment oppurtunities? realize it would be an estimate only. Thanks for your time and aid -- mia Dear Miao, I am glad I can be of some service. If you are in the US legally ther is no problem in asking for clearances. All you need is a socia security number or alien registration number. If they ask for reason you can write "visa" or "Master's program/PhD Program" because in som instances Universities ask for that (that's what we wrote). Legall they have to provide clearances to anyone who asks. In fact som landlords will ask for a clearances as well to protect thei properties. Next question: According to your first post, you profession and specialisation falls under the MODL category whic having a "skill in demand". Your skill assessment is the on determining if you have a MODL. The Modl will give you the extra point and allow for faster immigration processing. Now with the e-lodging, th processing time has been largely reduced. Let's say maybe from 4 to months. Before it could take up to 2 yrs. But again with your skills the usually pessimistic me is largely optimistic. So total: skill assessment preparation 1 to 2 months, skills assessment processin time:6 weeks (prepare your immigration paperwork during these si weeks), e-lodging/filling up the forms online after skills assessment: week, waiting for your visa to be granted: 4 to 6 months. So averag total: 7 to 12 months (give or take and depending the time it takes fo your paperwork coming from India to be processed-if any). Las question:finding work in OZ: Again, with your skills, you could have job tomorrow. One last thing: Aussies may seem laid-back and jovial but when it come to work, they are efficient and professional (very picky). So winging i does not work. Be picky with your application and provide trustworth info, because they will verify every little detail. Hope this helps. By the way, my husband is American, I'm Swiss with green card and I had even faster processing time with my America clearances. So don't worry. And anytime I can help, just ask... All the best, Anni -- AnnieDav Dear Annie, Thanks so much for your prompt and detailed response. It was immensel helpful. I hope my U.S. clearance comes quickly(for people on visa it take longer from what I have heard) as it seems clearance has be to within year for immigration authorities in Australia. My clearance from Indi might take longer. Is working in Australia different from U.S? I mean workin environment(is it typically 40hours per week or 70hours like in U.S corporate sector), growth opportunities in your field, at work, peopl and their attitude etc. I realize there might be some bias, but ar there are lot of immigrants from India and other parts of world there Do they get adjusted properly typically? Presently, I am in Florida in U.S. which is sunny most of the time. understand some parts of Australia are sunny and some are windy etc. hope I can adjust to the climate properly. It seems getting jobs in Australia is competitive like any other plac as the job interviews are difficult and past employment checks ar stringent? I understand salaries are competitive there, but is the cos of living considerably high than U.S. or is it about the same? What are the main reasons(employment,climate, education opportunitie or something else) people choose Australia over U.S.? I realize you ha a choice of U.S, Switzerland which are considered quite good fo immigration. And, after getting permanent residency, how many years d you have to stay there to get citizenship? And, does getting permanen residency means you have to move in within the year it was granted o is there some buffer period? Also, this may cost some 10K U.S dollars for me including applicatio fees, clearance, skill evaluation in addition to other expenses asssuming I don't get a agent which may cost som additional 3-4K U.S dollars. How much do you think someone who is alone need for the first 6 month for spening purposes till he/she gets employment for food, housing transport, job searching etc.? Do people generally find position within the first six months? Do you know any banks which don't charge conversion fees if the accoun is used overseas. My present bank HSBC will charge me a fee in additio the currency conversion charge of 2-3%. Can you please advise about quality of education(elementary schools t universities)? I understand most of my questions depends from person to person, bu can you please provide some general hints. Sorry, for the myriad questions, but you might be aware that moving i a huge decision which involves significant time and expense so I want to ensure I don't miss anything. Thanks again for all your time and help. I am indeed grateful -- mia Miao: I am also in Florida and I will be moving to the Melbourne area o April 17. I also use HSBC bank. Ask your branch manager how you can change you account into the multi currency account. You will have to have substantial balance to access this type of account, but the fees ar much less than the regular account. Best of luck!! Cheers Marily -- SheoWahy Hi With My experience i feel It will be better to apply outside US exampl US embassy in India,for police clearance, things will be faster then yo apply in US -- fftnf You need police clearances from all places you've lived in the last te yrs as of 18 years of age. US police clearances and FBI can be done fro overseas. Some countries may require that you show up yourself (rarely) it is important to go online to "http://www.immi.gov.au/", click visas/immigration, click "workers" (for those who want to immigrat with a skill without sponsors or Aussie spouses etc) and see fro there. For skills assessment go to http://www.acs.org.au/ and click "individuals" choose skills assessment. Again, all the best A -- AnnieDav Part-time job: They did not accept our part-time jobs. It has to be 3 or so. Verify. If you are short of work experience, there are othe options. Such as enrolling in a University program. But I'm no familiar. The website will tell you. There are plenty of new options i you are flexible and very interested (think: much better quality of lif and not having to watch your back every time you are in a parking lo ..). For more OZ IT info: http://www.australianit.news.com.au/ an http://it.seek.com.au/ ; OZ immigration news http://www.liveinaustralia.com -- AnnieDav Your questions and predicament remind me of our own a few years ago… I’ also building website to counter all the Qs that relatives hav regarding our move and this is helpful: Here are some answers to you Qs: 1. People about India and biases: I know that OZ just announced th plan to open up a branch of immigration in India to take advantage o recruiting one of the smartest people on this planet. India has rise to tops when it comes to IT and other skills. And if Australia wants t fill its projected shortage it is smart to tap in the best marke possible. Since I am not Indian I cannot say. But I would think that i an educated environment, people would regard Indians as “wow!”. 2. Biases: this is just from my observation and it’s not quantitativ research by any means: We’ve lived in all continents except fo Antarctica, obviously, and OZ is the only country where immigrants hav a huge smile on their faces. In fact, on our last trip last August we’v talked to everyone just to get a better idea: from shoe shiner t doctors, they all made it a point to tell us: that yes, they had neve regretted their move and that they would recommend it to everyone. The all seem very enthusiastic and very happy. Now, to us, that really sai something, because most places you go, immigrants always have that loo on their faces that say: “How did I ever choose to come here?” and “Ho did I ever get in such a mess?” 3. Working environment: Australians IT workers work a lot, but unlik the US, workers, they have more rights and compensations. They hav much more holidays (vacations). 4. At this point, let me recommend must-have books on the subject: 1 Culture Shock Australia by Isla Sharp, there’s a 2005 Ed. out there an for more practical tips on moving: banking, work, renting, house market Living and working in Australia by David Hampshire (2007) and Workin and living in Australia by Jane Eggington.. 5. With your straightforward resume I don’t think it will be necessar to hire an immigration lawyer. We used a service wit http://www.liveinaustralia.com/ where you pay about $300 AUD and get a advice service. You get about 150 questions that you get to ask and the answer within the 24-38 hours. Plus they help you organize your proces with the help of an online tool. Included are other tools like movin etc. It was well worth it to clarify some fuzzy parts. And they ar very respectful and professional and they have insider information to that you wouldn’t have otherwise. This site is also an award winner Use only accredited and award winners. 6. When we decided that we couldn’t go back to the USA because of th deteriorating situation and horrible statistics on overall quality o life (and having 4 children to whom we have a responsibility to offe the best possible future) I studied statistics from differen countries: for education and child rearing Australia ranked top 10 i the world. For School, back then, it ranked 2nd for girls and 5th fo boys worldwide. Five of the seven major cities in OZ was making the to ten and twenties of the world’s 500. OZ has a petty thief proble however, but people are still very safe compared to the USA where million children are missing at any given time. There is an incredibl amount of choice for school and private schools are subsidized so yo don’t have to dish up 30’000 to pay per child to send your children t private school. 7. Since we are still in Okinawa and waiting for our visa we haven’ worked in OZ so we can’t say much about the working environment yet. 8. Americans that we know who are tempted to go to OZ say they won;’ because of the taxes. I took a day to study taxes and did the ta calculator with an imaginary property and without mentioning our fou little guys. I did it for the income of 80’000, 100’000 and 150’000 an we were taxed less than what we would’ve been in the US. Plus th federal elections are Saturday and both competing parties are talkin of new family tax incentives including child care breaks an substantial educational refunds. See http://www.ozpolitics.info/ 9. Climate: You get Mediterranean climate in South Australia: cold winters and hot dry summers. In Melbourne it can be quite foggy and overcast but still lovely, the rest of the country has a lot of sunshine and it gets hot hot hot. But unless you are from foggy places you shouldn’t have problems adapting to the climate. OZ is a sporty country with lots of outdoor life and contrary to the US where shopping is the primary past time, stores close early (5:30-6:30 pm) and week-ends. So you better have lots of hobbies and otherwise gain a passion for life before you go (that was the primary complaint of new immigrants). TV is very dry and boring from an American perspective: not so sensational and lots of political discussions. 10. Consider this: Australia and the USA are about the same size: but whereas the US had last July 301,139,947 inhabitants, OZ had 20,434,176 inhabitants. Geopolitically that’s substantial to estimate future quality of life. 11. Financials: The housing market just about quintupled over the last 4 yrs but the government is making efforts in bringing it down and I have seen prices come down in the last year. In some places you can still buy a huge property for little money: 250’000 and have an indoor swimming pool and in-law apartment attached, but the housing market overall has become a problem and is about the same as in the US. Banking/mortgages is about the same and you will even find E-trade. I think but I’m not sure that mortgages are more competitive than in the US. HSBC is British is widely represented in OZ. 12. There is an estimate on the immigration website on living expenses for a year for a family of two adults/two kids: I think it was $36’000 AUD. From the time you get your visa you may have up to about 3 yrs to move to OZ, though now they reserve to shorten the time because of the skill deficit. You shouldn’t have too much problems finding a job in a few months. Plus immigration puts you on a data base and there are desperate hiring agencies. 13. Last, but not least: Citizenship in four yrs from time of entrance and voting is mandatory (you get fined if you don’t). 14. Ok that’s it. Take care…Annie and Dave PS: Verify when you need the clearances, they need to be up to date when you apply...Aussie TV website:http://www.abc.com.au/ with streaming audio and news clips  SignatureAnnieDave >Your questions and predicament remind me of our own a few years ago
Im >also building website to counter all the Qs that relatives have [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >possible. Since I am not Indian I cannot say. But I would think that in >an educated environment, people would regard Indians as wow!. Personally, I would totally agree with you. Although "English" might claim to be a "universal" language these days, as "German" once was in science, and "Latin" was once regarded as a "universal language", English is probably a far more difficult language to learn from "scratch". For an American, one of the easiest languages to achieve reasonable proficiency in is "Mexican Spanish". ...But even then, there are lots of possible traps. Decades ago I took two years of it in high school, and could manage to "get by" in it, in speaking or reading. But how much time would it have taken me to "get by" in China? In Mandarin or Cantonese, or one of the other dialects? Fortunately, the Chinese are one of the most intelligent races on earth, and if a traveller doesn't speak a word of the language, can probably get by with a very basic and improvised form of"sign language". In India, no problem in finding someone who speaks at least basic English. Suppose I had been born in India, though? Many readers who have grown up with English as their language can manage to speak, read, or write it to a certain level. Some un-named posters to this group may have more trouble expressing themselves, of course, but that is another issue. Suppose, though, I had been born in India. Would I find it easy, or even possible, to learn to even speak in "Basic English", let alone read or write it? Let alone to achieve competency in technical areas such as "computer skills"? If I were in the position to hire an "Indian" from India for any computer position, he would get "extra points" for his obvious intelligence in even learning basic English, let alone his technical expertise. On the other hand, were I an employer in India, for even a simple job, let alone a technical job, would I be likely to employ an American, or for that matter, an Australian? Only if they could display outstanding talent. Hell, my computer skills aren't that even that impressive in the U.S. or Australia. Even if they were, I wouldn't consider even bothering to apply for any computer related job in India. I simply don't think I could learn the language. On the other hand, if I was looking for someone here, and couldn't conveniently outsource my business to India, I would probably grab the first Indian applicant to come along. If he can even communicate in, say, Hindi and English, I could find a use for him. Um, isn't this fairly obvious to all, even on this group? Anyway, to continue: >2. Biases: this is just from my observation and its not quantitative >research by any means: Weve lived in all continents except for >Antarctica, obviously, and OZ is the only country where immigrants have >a huge smile on their faces. Nice, and accurate input, IMHO! > In fact, on our last trip last August weve >talked to everyone just to get a better idea: from shoe shiner to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >on their faces that say: How did I ever choose to come here? and How >did I ever get in such a mess? I recently read an article on this issue. If you are interested, will try to dig it out. >3. Working environment: Australians IT workers work a lot, but unlike >the US, workers, they have more rights and compensations. Yes. > They have much more holidays (vacations). Will comment on this one, as a U.S. immigrant. When I migrated here, decades ago, the standard "holiday" or "vacation" was 2 weeks. Providing, of course, you had worked for a company for at least a year. At the time, the standard Aussie holiday was at least 4 weeks, in any full time job. Or 6 weeks, or even 8 weeks. >4. At this point, let me recommend must-have books on the subject: 1. >Culture Shock Australia by Isla Sharp, theres a 2005 Ed. out there and >for more practical tips on moving: banking, work, renting, house market: >Living and working in Australia by David Hampshire (2007) and Working >and living in Australia by Jane Eggington.. I haven't read either, but if I were considering migrating to Australia for the first time, your recommendation would be enough for me. >5. With your straightforward resume I dont think it will be necessary >to hire an immigration lawyer. We used a service with [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >that you wouldnt have otherwise. This site is also an award winner. >Use only accredited and award winners. Sounds like good advice to me! >6. When we decided that we couldnt go back to the USA because of the >deteriorating situation and horrible statistics on overall quality of [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >dont have to dish up 30000 to pay per child to send your children to >private school. As my wife and I were pretty realistic about the probable future of the world, we made a decision not to have children soon after we married, decades ago. Still, others obviously are more optimistic than we are, so your advice is valuable. >7. Since we are still in Okinawa and waiting for our visa we havent >worked in OZ so we cant say much about the working environment yet. I think it safe to say that you will like it, to say the least. However, if you can impress me with this post, which you have, then you will probably impress others. As you have probably gathered, I am not that easy to impress. >8. Americans that we know who are tempted to go to OZ say they won;t >because of the taxes. I took a day to study taxes and did the tax [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >of new family tax incentives including child care breaks and >substantial educational refunds. See http://www.ozpolitics.info/ You are obviously very intelligent. I can usually find something to criticize in most such posts, but in yours the only one that "sticks out" a bit is that you don't mention the Australian Medicare system and/or Pharmaceutical benefits. As to a universal "Medicare" system, when I left the US a person could struggle to an emergency room with a knife buried in his guts, and the first question he or she would be asked would probably be "Do you have private medical insurance?" Translation: If you don't, you can sit here and die. How many advanced countries don't have a universal medical care program? Unfortunately, you gain no points by answering "the USA" . Doesn't everyone know this? If not, perhaps they should check the facts. A lot of Australians choose to work in the USA. "Better salaries" and all that. I often wonder if they consider what it will cost them if they or one of their family needs medical care, let alone hospitalization? >9. Climate: You get Mediterranean climate in South Australia: cold >winters and hot dry summers. In Melbourne it can be quite foggy and [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >is the primary past time, stores close early (5:30-6:30 pm) and >week-ends. Not so much these days, though. When I first came to Australia, yes. 9 AM to 5 PM weekdays. Little weekend shopping. Why? Well at the time, the "standard" working week of ~ 35 hours paid employees at the "standard award rate per hour". For purposes of easy calculation, say A$ 5 per hour, minimum wage. . About U.S. $7 at the time, although would have to check. Overtime, such as working late Thursday night? Multiply standard rate by 1.5 per hour. Saturday work? Double time, multiply standard rate by 2x. Sunday or holiday work, 3x would have been pretty standard. > So you better have lots of hobbies and otherwise gain a >passion for life before you go (that was the primary complaint of new >immigrants). TV is very dry and boring from an American perspective: >not so sensational and lots of political discussions. A very reasonable comment. Although I personally wouldn't consider it "boring" unless one was willing to watch commercial channels. Personally, I rarely watch T.V., and when I do, it would be the commercial free channels such as A.B.C. or S.B.S. >10. Consider this: Australia and the USA are about the same size: but >whereas the US had last July 301,139,947 inhabitants, OZ had 20,434,176 >inhabitants. Geopolitically thats substantial to estimate future >quality of life. Shush! Do you want to tell everyone how good life is here? [Just kidding of course, but you might expect some critical comment from other readers of this group!] Actually, as a long time resident of Australia, your post strikes me as exceptional. >11. Financials: The housing market just about quintupled over the last >4 yrs but the government is making efforts in bringing it down and I [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >think but Im not sure that mortgages are more competitive than in the >US. HSBC is British is widely represented in OZ. You obviously know more than I would claim to know, but I cannot meaningfully criticize your analysis. [If I could, I probably would! :-) >12. There is an estimate on the immigration website on living expenses >for a year for a family of two adults/two kids: I think it was $36000 [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >few months. Plus immigration puts you on a data base and there are >desperate hiring agencies. For what it is worth, I personally consider this an exceptional analysis. >13. Last, but not least: Citizenship in four yrs from time of entrance >and voting is mandatory (you get fined if you dont). >14. Ok thats it. Take care Annie and Dave >PS: Verify when you need the clearances, they need to be up to date >when you apply...Aussie TV website:http://www.abc.com.au/ with >streaming audio and news clips IMHO, [In my humble opinion} your post is one of the best have seen on either the immigration or the tourist groups. To quote a bit from Kipling: They have looked each other between the eyes, and there they found no fault, They have taken the Oath of the Brother-in-Blood on leavened bread and salt: They have taken the Oath of the Brother-in-Blood on fire and fresh-cut sod, On the hilt and the haft of the Khyber knife, and the Wondrous Names of God. http://www.bartleby.com/246/1129.htm You may appreciate this, others on this group may not. But their problems, perhaps? I wonder how many will even bother to click on the link? Should I worry? Nope. Their problem, not mine. Hope to see more posts from you. Cheers, Kangaroo16 Thanks Annie, I am truly obliged for your detailed responses. They are very usefu indeed. It seems I need to wait another two years or find an employer in OZ For people like me trying for a independent skilled migration vis skills assessment must be done http://tinyurl.com/2bhwqd and the grou that does it for people like me http://tinyurl.com/3du3wk i http://www.acs.org.au/ whose cuurent guidelines stat https://www.acs.org.au/assessment/docs/Current_PIMGuidelines.pdf tha for folks like me 4 year of full time experience is needed. I did no realize there would be no recognition for an advanced degree(Master' in the field) which would allow me to substitute education fo experience. So, it seems the Assessment Authorities require a Bachelor's and years full time experience. Even if my part time experience wer prorated I would have only 2 years of total full time experience. have to keep looking vigorously for employers who are willing to hir someone from overseas like me. Thanks again for your responses, advice and time -- mia Dear "Miao", Yes, the same problem threw us off 4 yrs ago. We had to wait too-we ha changed our careers and thought that with our degrees we only needed yrs-but they were unrelated degrees so we had to wait an additional yrs. We kind of gave up heart-broken but then we moved next to a Aussi Surf champion here in Japan...and one thing led to another as lif always does.... So anyway at this point I don't know what to suggest We are not yet in the OZ workforce to be able to give any advice o finding work or on referring your resume to people we don't yet know So I wish you all the best. Don't give up on your dreams and make lif happen for you. Again, with your skills, the future is yours. Take care, Annie and Dav -- AnnieDav AnnieDave;173061 Wrote: > Dear "Miao", > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Take care, > Annie and Dave Dear Annie, Thanks a lot for your reply and encouragement. I did not realize tha an advanced degree does not have a value for OZ migration. M background seems proper for Canada as they need only two years wor experience if you have a Master's, but I have to verify that lest I ma be wrong like OZ. It seems I have to wait additional two years. The issue is I need t submit my application before I am 30 else I will lose points and befor I have any family(wife/children to support) as then it becomes lo harder to move once you are settled in a place/country. I have few more questions and would appreciate your reply. Are Japan, Canada, New Zealand, Singapore, Malayasia and places lik Sweden, Switzerland proper for prospective migrants? I understand yo have done quite some research in this matter(immigration to differen countries) and hence would appreciate your response. I have hear particularly from where you are(Switzerland) people are lot happie than other parts of world. Do you think that is accurate? How is Japan You and Dave know lot more about U.S than me. Do you think there are an particular reasons you prefer other countries? I recognize you mentione quality of life, safety of children and rights for workers are better i OZ than U.S. If you don't mind can I ask if you and Dave have backgrounds similar t me? It seems Dave has a IT background and you have a investmen banker's(accounting/management/finance) background? That can help me determine what kind of people can be employed in Japa etc? It seems very few countries(U.S.,Canada,OZ,New Zealand,to som extent certain states of European Union) are open to immigrants an have job opportunities for them. Thanks so much for your prompt responses. Your unstinted time in aidin people like me is sincerely appreciated. Thanks for your well wishes. also wish you, Dave and your four children all the best -- mia Hi, You will be able to apply for police clearance from US embassy in Indi only once you are in India, in procedure in faster then applying in US If you are still in US you will not be able to do it However there i enough time for you to get the police clearance. I feel you 2 years part time exp will be considered but to receive ful marks on the exp you need to have 4 years exp. I would advice you to get the qualifications assessed first, once tha is done other things are relatively easier, once you get a positiv assessment and you are in MODL you visa is almost sure, unless you fee you have any criminal/ or passport related crimes, or serious medica condition like TB, HIV etc. hence once you get your positive assessment you can actually star planning your mov -- fftnf fftnft;173064 Wrote: > Hi, > You will be able to apply for police clearance from US embassy in Indi [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > hence once you get your positive assessment you can actually star > planning your move Hi, Thanks for the reply. Do you know about the procedure for obtaining for clearance from Indi at a US embassy? What documents do they require and charges etc? Ho long does it take to get it from India? I have got a police clearanc from India but that was since 2002 so is valid now and it was obtaine from my local police station whereas OZ migration seems to require on from Central Goverment in Delhi. The issue is I cannot get a positive assessment at present as I hav mentioned above that one needs 4 times full years of full tim experience in my field which I don't have at present. So, I have t wait 2 years, then when I become eligible, get a police clearance fro India and US, then apply. Thank -- mia Dear Miao, To answer your Q concerning working overseas: You probably went to th US like me on a student visa for your studies? Dave and I met i college. We were both studying international relations and we had som professors who were involved with the Oslo Accords and swayed us t study the Israeli/Palestinian conflict. So we travelled a lo overseas/Middle East thereafter. However after a few yrs my husban changed careers and went into the IT field, networks and security.. H started work and after 2 yrs our company started a project in Egypt Dave got to be on the team and we lived there for 2 yrs. It was toug for me, a mother of one young child but when we went back to the U thereafter we couldn't cope with American Suburbia and the lack o certain things in American culture. So we just looked around fo projects overseas and applied for them. All of this, we did from a American perspective, meaning, we searched postings from America Companies (you get to work tax free). There are about 1 millio overseas American posts (not always vacant), some of them require a American Passport, some of them don't. There are search engines onlin for these postings. Otherwise you could look up countries with I shortages. I know that Programmers are at the top of the shortage Switzerland is looking for foreign workers right now. My sister work at the Employment's office in CH, I'll ask her. I don't know abou Japan hiring overseas workers (we are here with an American company) Japan is a country with racial prejudice. Countries with lots of I posts are Malaysia and Singapore and employers are EU and US. Companie to look for are SAIC, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon, Shell, BP, Boeing etc NGOs like USAID and other International communities like the UN als have postings and may add more "umph" to a resume though the pays ar not always very great. We have been, in the past, in teams o internationals and there is a fun community of skilled and educate workers everywhere and the camaraderie is wonderful. That is probabl the reason why people like to stay overseas, because there is les boring routine, you get to travel and be part of a close-knit communit of very dynamic people of all ages and walks of life. I wish I were more helpful, but maybe this post will stir your searche in the right direction.. -- AnnieDav AnnieDave;173070 Wrote: > Dear Miao, > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > I wish I were more helpful, but maybe this post will stir your searche > in the right direction... Dear Annie, Thanks for your detailed and prompt reply. Yes, I went to the U.S on a student visa(F-1) for further studies. You are correct there is a shortage of software developers, bu outsourcing is reducing that in many developed countries(U.S, Canad etc.) and you might be aware of that. Thanks for your useful suggestions. Some do require America citizenship it seems and most atleast a green card. I have to determin what is the immigration situation of countries in EU(European Union) a for people like me there has to be an employer willing to hire me fro overseas and immigration is getting difficult these days in man places. You were very helpful indeed and I am deeply grateful -- mia Miao, I will write back when I found out how to apply for a job i Switzerland with a foreign passport. My Sister is looking into it They're not outsourcing as of yet. Anni -- AnnieDav AnnieDave;173078 Wrote: > Miao, > > I will write back when I found out how to apply for a job i > Switzerland with a foreign passport. My Sister is looking into it > They're not outsourcing as of yet. > Annie Thanks Annie, I am sincerely grateful for your time, assistance and advice -- mia |
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