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Landing papers required for citizenship application?

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splitman2000@hotmail.com - 21 Jun 2006 04:04 GMT
Hi there,

I'm in the midst of applying for citizenship and was looking through
the application guide when one thing struck me as puzzling.

It seems some landing papers are still required as supporting documents
even though I seem to recall that the Maple Leaf card is to supercede
everything else. I'm afraid I might have misplaced those papers as I
have been moving from place to place over the years.

Shouldn't the Maple Leaf card be proof enough of our legal status in
Canada? What about our SIN card and OHIP card and all that?

I had initially thought perhaps the online instructions had not been
up-to-date, and had called the customer service line to clarify.
According to the agent I spoke with, the papers are required when our
application goes through as they will need to have them updated.

I'm still not sure if I understood him totally. What is there to update
when the papers are supposed to have been obsolete since we got our
Maple Leaf card?

I'm thinking of ignoring that part of the instructions and go ahead and
submit my application first. Will apply to have a certified true copy
of whatever they need when they write back to request for it. Wonder if
this would jeopardize my application in any way. It just seems stupid
to pay for some obsolete documents only to have them invalidated the
next moment. If those are not obsolete papers, they shouldn't have
misled us into thinking they were!

Any kind souls out there who're in the know, please kindly advise.
Thanks.
PMM - 21 Jun 2006 04:14 GMT
Hi

> Hi there,
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> Any kind souls out there who're in the know, please kindly advise.
> Thanks.

Get a certified copy of your IMM 1000 from CIC, there is a good chance that
if you submit it without, your app will be returned to you 2 months down the
road and that's 2 months you've lost.

PMM
splitman2000@hotmail.com - 21 Jun 2006 19:12 GMT
Hi PMM,

Thank you for your prompt response.

I guess my safest bet would be to do as suggested but I still can't
help but wonder why they need us to do that since the PR card is
supposed to supercede everything else. Anyway...

While we're on this, do you happen to have any idea what happens if
your country of origin does not allow dual citizenship? Does it in any
way jeopardize your application to be a Canadian citizen? What are the
likely consequences?

Rgds

> Hi
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> PMM
sgallagher@rogers.com - 21 Jun 2006 19:58 GMT
> Thank you for your prompt response.
>
> I guess my safest bet would be to do as suggested but I still can't
> help but wonder why they need us to do that since the PR card is
> supposed to supercede everything else. Anyway...

The PR card was created specifically for use when a person who holds PR
status is entering Canada on a commercial carrier.  It did not totally
replace the Record of Landing.  Many government agencies will accept
the PR card in lieu of the record of landing in order to prove a
person's status, but it's primary purpose was for when the holder is
entering Canada from abroad.

Part of the reason for submitting the landing papers.

Although they didn't do it in the past, I believe that when citizenship
is granted, they will now stamp the landing papers with a statement to
that effect (ie. that the person is now a Canadian citizen).

> While we're on this, do you happen to have any idea what happens if
> your country of origin does not allow dual citizenship? Does it in any
> way jeopardize your application to be a Canadian citizen? What are the
> likely consequences?

Canadian law is not interested in whether the original country permits
dual citzienship or not.  It is immaterial to you being granted
Canadian citizenship and from a Canadian point of view it will have no
consequence on an application for Canadian citizenship.

>From the point of view of the original country, if they do not allow
dual citizenship then the acquistion of Canadian citizenship may very
well cause loss of the original citizenship.  But the actual details in
what happens would depend on the laws of the original country and how
they are enforced.
splitman2000@hotmail.com - 26 Jun 2006 19:51 GMT
Thank you for the information. Much appreciated...

> > Thank you for your prompt response.
> >
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> what happens would depend on the laws of the original country and how
> they are enforced.
 
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