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Immigration Forum / Canada / November 2006What happens when visitor visa expires
Hi all, I have a question about Canadain temporary visitor visa..... If someone keeps staying in canada after the allowed time (usually 6 months) in visitor visa, will he/she be detained by police? or the worse case is, if he/she is reported to police (or immigration authortiy), what will happen to this person? Thanks, Tim Keep staying for how long? Few days over or just stay in Canada and never go back? If it is just staying few days over the allowed time, that person will not get another TR visa in the future, at least on on the same passport. I don;t think there is any formal process followed by CIC to hunt down visitors that overstay. But if the person gets caught by police for some reason and later on found to be an illegal alien, then he/she will be handed over to the immigration and will be deported. And if the person just stays here for ever, the question is why? You cannot go to school, cannot get a job - at least not legally. Cannot even open a bank account. Say the person stays here illegally and gets an illegal cash job, where the person is gonna put all the money? Under the pillow? ==== Sincerely, RahimBadsha http://www.VisaCanadaImmigration.com > Hi all, > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Tim > cannot go to school, cannot get a job - at least not legally. Cannot > even open a bank account. Say the person stays here illegally and gets How long has it been since they verified status on the person opening the account? Both accounts I opened (checking and savings) were done in 1994 and 1999, and I had not proved that I had any status when I opened them. I didn't even provide a SIN number for either account. They still don't have it on the account I opened in 1999 (savings account). I provided the required two forms of ID (which is what was required at the time), neither being a foreign passport, PR card, or any proof of landing. I pressume my status on the account shows up as resident, but the bank does not know I was a PR when I opened the account, or that I am currently a citizen. Just wondering when things have changed, I do know that a lot has changed with agencies getting tougher on proving the identity of everyone. For instance, health cards and driver's licenses in Ontario now bear all names (first and middle) of all person who have one of these cards. But I have customers that show me their ID that will say C. D. Smith for example, so I don't know what their first name is at all when they provide their ID to pick up their mail. These customers are usually in their 50's. Quite a few younger customers complain that they prefer their middle name, and can't seem to do anything about it on their ID, so they're registered in school as say, Charles D. Smith when they prefer their middle name as their "common name." S. > > cannot go to school, cannot get a job - at least not legally. > > Cannot [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > S. There are 400,000 undocumented workers in Canada and they are still working. Since Canada has no exit requirements the Canadian authorities do not know you left or are still here. Your answer to your question is the same as the question i"If I speed down the highway will I get a ticket?" If your caught you have a problem. Roy cvimmigration.com :D :D -- when caught for any other offences, it's gonna be problem (police hand over to immigration and then deported), but what if the over-stayers are well displined but just someone else who doesn't want them here in Canada reports their out-of-status fact to police or immigration? will they be detained immediately or deported immediately? and what's the process? > Keep staying for how long? Few days over or just stay in Canada and > never go back? If it is just staying few days over the allowed time, [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > > > Tim Because of persons like in your mail who overstay their visa expiry dates many persons like me who are legal immigrant in this country have to pay higher taxes. Also to get my In-laws here for just three months visit I had to file so many supporting documents stating that at the end of their holiday they shall return back to India and shall not over stay their visa. Go back to the country you have come from and apply for Immigration. Unless of you can claim political asylum status. And yes to open a bank account you need to have a sin number. I did open a bank account in Vancouver branch of a international bank while I was in Bombay(Mumbai) but after landing I had to submit my sin number to activate the account, although I was given a temporaty debit card on day one to operate account as the sin number take a few weeks to be issued. Kash > when caught for any other offences, it's gonna be problem (police hand > over to immigration and then deported), but what if the over-stayers [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] >> > >> > Tim > And yes to open a bank account you need to have a sin number. I did open a > bank account in Vancouver branch of a international bank > while I was in Bombay(Mumbai) but after landing I had to submit my sin > number to activate the account, although I was given a temporaty > debit card on day one to operate account as the sin number take a few weeks > to be issued. If it's an interest bearing account, a SIN is required for tax purposes. Some people don't have one and need to open an account, but they might be able to do this as foreign status. I'll ask my bank manager about the latest rules, since she's a customer at my store. It doesn't affect me, but I am often curious about the changes in how things operate in Canada. S. If I remember right, things changed around 99-2000 timeframe. Only bank that would let you open a bank account without a SIN card was TD and they would require you to provide SIN card once obtained. All the other banls would require SIN card since 99. I think you can still open a bank account at TD but at least you will have to show them that you applied for a SIN card and show them the receipt. ==== Sincerely, RahimBadsha http://www.VisaCanadaImmigration.com > > And yes to open a bank account you need to have a sin number. I did open a > > bank account in Vancouver branch of a international bank [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > S. I think that was around the time frame I opened my account at Scotiabank, but I just told them I didn't know it when I opened the account, and it wasn't a required piece of documentation. At some point later I was asked if I'd provide it, and I just told the teller I didn't want to. They haven't done anything about it, until last year, I had to provide my social insurance number to purchase investments (because they are interest bearing investments), so I pressume if I put it on the forms, they updated my profile. I'm sure for certain circumstances someone can open a Canadian account without a SIN number, but it would probably have to be foreign status. In the US, most banks require a US SSN. But if your account in the US is recognized as "foreign status" (because the account holder does not live in the US), and it's also not interest bearing, then they'll open it if you meet the requirement for what they need from the account holder. I figured in Canada it would be the same thing, but I'll ask the bank manager next time I see her, then I'll know the policy for one specific bank (but I don't deal with that bank). In 1994 I provided my SIN when I opened my checking account only because as a student in high school I had not much ID. So I only had a non-photo health card (which was valid for ID back then), SIN card, and student ID. My parents were holding my passport and Immigration documents in a safe place, so they weren't available to me when I opened the account. But the bank was okay with that since I had three pieces of ID. S. > If I remember right, things changed around 99-2000 timeframe. Only bank > that would let you open a bank account without a SIN card was TD and > they would require you to provide SIN card once obtained. All the other > banls would require SIN card since 99. I think you can still open a > bank account at TD but at least you will have to show them that you > applied for a SIN card and show them the receipt. My children who are in Elementary school and for opening a RESP account for them in another Bank I had to get them their SIN numbers. That is around three years ago. My better half works for a credit union and lately she said that members opening new account if they do not whish to disclose their SIN number they have to give a trace able land line number matching to their name and address as on the application form I.E. on superpages or 411 web site (Both their database is same) Kash >I think that was around the time frame I opened my account at > Scotiabank, but I just told them I didn't know it when I opened the [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >> bank account at TD but at least you will have to show them that you >> applied for a SIN card and show them the receipt. > My children who are in Elementary school and for opening a RESP account for > them > in another Bank I had to get them their SIN numbers. That is around three > years ago. That would be because it's an interest bearing account. SINs are required for Revenue Canada. > My better half works for a credit union and lately she said that members > opening [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > application form > I.E. on superpages or 411 web site (Both their database is same) I checked with someone at Royal Bank today, she said many students have checking accounts but either don't have, or have not disclosed a SIN number. I asked the lady, "If I wanted to open an account and had a SIN, could I just refuse to tell you?" She said it was fine, but did not tell me what would be needed in lieu of. I do know that proof of status in Canada is required, usually in the form of Immigration documents, proof of citizenship, or Canadian birth certificate. S. |
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