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Davey - 12 Mar 2007 01:19 GMT
Hi,

I hope misc.immigration.canada  is the right group for these questions.  If
not, please point me to the right newsgroup.

I'm looking into the process of applying for Canadian permanent residence as
a skilled worker for me, my wife, and two young children.  I live in the US
my whole life and have visited Canada many times.

Anyway, I'm looking over the forms I need to fill out, and I have some
questions.

*  Would a petty larceny (shoplifting) incident in 1980 cause my application
to be automatically rejected?

*  I'm being asked for a letter of reference from my current employer, with
some pretty specific details.  However, my employer says they cannot
generate letters with the level of detail that I am being asked (by Canada
immigration) to supply.  If the letter of reference from the current
employer does not have every detail they request (i.e. a description of my
duties), does that kill the application?

*  Looking at the form
(http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/imm0008egen.pdf) there doesn't
seem to be anyplace to sign on the form.  No signature necessary?

*  On the http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/imm0008_1e.pdf form,
item 2 asks me to write my name.  Are they asking for my signature here?

*  Do I only need to submit one of these forms:
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/IMM5406E.PDF ?  Or do I need to
submit one for my wife and one for me?  The only reason I ask is because I
have a letter from IC saying one from me and one from my wife.
mmaker@my-deja.com - 12 Mar 2007 03:14 GMT
> *  Would a petty larceny (shoplifting) incident in 1980 cause my application
> to be automatically rejected?

Shouldn't do, but you may have to be 'pardoned' to be accepted. I'm
not sure of the details of doing that, you might want to talk to an
immigration expert.

> If the letter of reference from the current
> employer does not have every detail they request (i.e. a description of my
> duties), does that kill the application?

No. In the UK, for example, it seems most companies won't issue
reference letters with much more than job title, salary and employment
dates, but plenty of people still get visas.

But provide any other evidence you can of the duties you perform to
support the application, e.g. copies of work appraisal forms, if you
have them. The immigration officer may also phone your employer and
ask them to confirm the details if you don't include enough
information.

> *  Looking at the form
> (http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/imm0008egen.pdf) there doesn't
> seem to be anyplace to sign on the form.  No signature necessary?

No. From what I remember there's only one form you have to sign in the
initial application.

> *  On thehttp://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/imm0008_1e.pdfform,
> item 2 asks me to write my name.  Are they asking for my signature here?

No, they just want your name in your native language (e.g. Arabic,
Chinese, etc).

> *  Do I only need to submit one of these forms:http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/IMM5406E.PDF?  Or do I need to
> submit one for my wife and one for me?  The only reason I ask is because I
> have a letter from IC saying one from me and one from my wife.

I would imagine you each need to do one: after all, you need to list
parents, brothers and sisters on there. However, given they ask for
'applicant' and 'spouse' at the top it's not 100% clear. Hopefully
someone else knows for sure.

     Mark
xyankee - 12 Mar 2007 07:10 GMT
> > *  Would a petty larceny (shoplifting) incident in 1980 cause my
> >    application
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>
>       Mark

* Would a petty larceny (shoplifting) incident in 1980 cause my
 application
 to be automatically rejected?
 GET AN EXPUNGMENT OF THE RECORD AND THE CRIME NEVER OCCURED IN THE US
 AND SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE DATABASE

* I'm being asked for a letter of reference from my current employer,
 with
 some pretty specific details. However, my employer says they cannot
 generate letters with the level of detail that I am being asked (by
 Canada
 immigration) to supply. If the letter of reference from the current
 employer does not have every detail they request (i.e. a description
 of my
 duties), does that kill the application?
 US EMPLOYERS WILL GIVE NOTHING TO YOU TO HELP AS THEY ARE AFRAID OF
 BEING SUED

* Looking at the form
 (http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/imm0008egen.pdf) there
 doesn't
 seem to be anyplace to sign on the form. No signature necessary?
 CALL THE LAW SOCIETY OF THE PROVINCE YOU WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO AND
 GET A REFERAL FOR AN IMMIGRATION ATTORNEY - ONCE THAT IS DONE MAKE
 AND APPOINTMENT AND IT IS FREE AND MAKE SURE YOU ARE DEALING WITH A
 REPUTABLE FIRM AND HAVE THEM DO THE IMMIGRATION APPERWORK FOR YOU
 AND SUBMIT IT

* On the http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/imm0008_1e.pdf
 form,
 item 2 asks me to write my name. Are they asking for my signature
 here?
 LET THE LAWYER FILL ALL THAT OUT AND GO BACK AND FORTH

* Do I only need to submit one of these forms:
 http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/IMM5406E.PDF ? Or do I
 need to
 submit one for my wife and one for me? The only reason I ask is
 because I
 have a letter from IC saying one from me and one from my wife.

--
Davey - 12 Mar 2007 22:27 GMT
>> > *  Would a petty larceny (shoplifting) incident in 1980 cause my
>> >    application
[quoted text clipped - 54 lines]
>  GET AN EXPUNGMENT OF THE RECORD AND THE CRIME NEVER OCCURED IN THE US
>  AND SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE DATABASE

I have heard of this sort of thing, but anytime I contact a lawyer (leaving
a message) I never get a call back.  And, last week I called the court where
the incident took place and the clerk told me this was not possible.  Can
you refer me to more information about EXPUNGMENT (in New York State)?

In any event, because I enter Canada frequently, in 1996 Canada customs
pulled me over and searched their database and saw my conviction.  They told
me I could not enter Canada because of this offence.  So, I said something
like, "aww, c'mon'. and they told me about their Rehabilitation process.  I
applied for Rehabilitation and was granted it.  Now, if they pullme over
when I enter Canada, and if they start uestioning me, I show them the letter
and that seems to make them happy.  Maybe that will smooth things over for
me when I apply for residence.

> * I'm being asked for a letter of reference from my current employer,
>  with
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>  because I
>  have a letter from IC saying one from me and one from my wife.
mmaker@my-deja.com - 13 Mar 2007 01:22 GMT
>  I
> applied for Rehabilitation and was granted it.  Now, if they pullme over
> when I enter Canada, and if they start uestioning me, I show them the letter
> and that seems to make them happy.  Maybe that will smooth things over for
> me when I apply for residence.

Sounds like you're probably OK in that case.

   Mark
Davey - 26 Mar 2007 02:41 GMT
>>  I
>> applied for Rehabilitation and was granted it.  Now, if they pullme over
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
>    Mark

OK, I sat down today and really looked at the forms, and some more
questions.  Hope folks who read this newsgroup can help me get answers to
them:

Question 1.

On the form titled "Application for Permanent Residence in Canada", the
first bit of information it asks for is the category under which I am
applying.  I think I am applying as a federal skilled worker.  Do I check
the "Other" box and write in "skilled worker"?

Question 2.

In the instructions of the Buffalo visa office
(http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/guides/E37048.pdf) it says:

APPLICATION FOR PERMANENT RESIDENCE IN CANADA

Check that it is complete and signed.

But when I look on
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/imm0008egen.pdf, I do not see a
place on the form for my signature.  Am I looking at the wrong form, or are
the instructions in error?

Question 3.

On Schedule 1, I must provide info on past addresses, college history, and
info on what I have been doing since I was 18 years old.  Is it OK to note
in each section, 'see attachment' and present the information on an attached
piece of paper?

Question 4.

I'm being asked to send marriage and birth certificates.  Are photo copies
alright, or do they require originals?  If I send them originals, when can I
expect to get them back?

Question 5.

My (Russian) wife's college diploma and college transcripts are in Russian.
I need to submit them with translations?  Do the translations need to be
notarized?

Question 6.

The police certificate form
(http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/guides/E37048.pdf) has me a little
puzzled.  I guess this form only applies to our US police records (i.e. this
form cannot be used for my wife's Russian police records)?  The instructions
say to affix my own name and address label.  Where am I supposed to do that?
Also, the form asks for all addresses (in the US).  I guess I will attach a
piece of paper to the form, as I have has many addresses.  Is there a
special way to do this?  Also, do they only want physical addresses, or can
I give a post office box (i.e. mailing address)?

Question 7.

Is there a telephone number for Canadian immigration, who I could call and
ask these questions?
 
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