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CanadaGuy@ether.net - 10 Sep 2007 03:26 GMT
I have a girlfriend in China who would like to apply for a Temporary
resident visa to come visit me in Canada.

I understand that her application can basically be completed three
different ways:

1. By herself
2. By representative (non-paid friends/family, generous CSIC/ Law
      society member).
3. By representative (paid).

Could someone please explain to me the advantages/disadvantages of
each of these three choices, if there are any?

According to the Govt. of Canada website, representatives are given no
preferential treatment in the processing of the applications.

Guidance in this endeavour would be appreciated.

TIA

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S P Arif Sahari Wibowo - 11 Sep 2007 00:55 GMT
> Could someone please explain to me the
> advantages/disadvantages of each of these three choices, if
> there are any?

The advantages of having representative is basically simply to
having a second opinion on filling the application, which can
advise on avoiding some mistake and how to file the application
better. Obviously if the representative is paid, he/she has more
obligation to put effort on this advisement.

AFAIK, if the application is straightforward and the applicant
is able to fill the form, generally having representative is of
very little value. Especially since most paid representative
still require the applicant fill the form by him/herself (the
representative just do the checking and put together
documentation).

Note that for a person be granted Temporary Resident Visa (TRV)
in visitor capacity, he/she need to prove that he/she is a
genuine visitor and can provide for him/herself during the visit
and will leave Canada before his/her status expires. If he/she
cannot prove that, the TRV application will be rejected.

In some cases, there are applicants who are genuine visitors,
can provide for themselves, and will leave Canada before their
status expire, but have difficulties proving it. In these cases,
a good and competent professionals can be useful in collecting
the correct documentations and explanation which can be
effective as proof of above.

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CanadaGuy@ether.net - 11 Sep 2007 01:37 GMT
>The advantages of having representative is basically simply to
>having a second opinion on filling the application, which can
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>the correct documentations and explanation which can be
>effective as proof of above.

Thanks very much for your summary of the three options.
I really appreciate it!

Best,

  Ric

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CanadaGuy@ether.net - 20 Sep 2007 04:37 GMT
Box 5. on the first page of the TRV application states:

"Funds available for my stay in Canada:".

The woman I'm inviting will be staying at my house for her 4 week
stay. She will have no living expenses (food and board etc). I don't
anticipate her going on a shopping spree either.  :)

What is a 'common' amount to state for the 'funds available' for this
situation, so the visa officer will be satisifed she has enough funds?

TIA

Ric

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Sapphyre - 20 Sep 2007 16:18 GMT
On Sep 19, 11:37 pm, Canada...@ether.net wrote:
> The woman I'm inviting will be staying at my house for her 4 week
> stay. She will have no living expenses (food and board etc). I don't
> anticipate her going on a shopping spree either.  :)
>
> What is a 'common' amount to state for the 'funds available' for this
> situation, so the visa officer will be satisifed she has enough funds?

I can't comment on funds, but let me put it this way... True
experience at the POE. I was going to visit the US for four weeks, I
was planning on staying in National Parks with a rental car, and I had
over 10K in combined investments/savings, etc. He still wanted to know
if I had a credit card, "just in case", because apparently 10K in
liquid assets wasn't enough in itself.

So your mileage may vary, and it's not just a number... I certainly
didn't spend 10K on my trip, but the point was to prove I could afford
any emergency (I had medical coverage for travel), and I could afford
a flight back home one way if need be. But having a credit card itself
was much more key than the money I had available. I've even travelled
with not much cash and a visa card, and once I had proof of credit,
they didn't care so much that the cash I was carrying would barely
last a few days (and definitely not check me into a city hotel).

They will likely want to know she has enough cash to get herself home,
or put herself in a hotel, should that be necessary for any reason.

S.
CanadaGuy@ether.net - 20 Sep 2007 20:34 GMT
>...He still wanted to know
>if I had a credit card, "just in case", because apparently 10K in
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>They will likely want to know she has enough cash to get herself home,
>or put herself in a hotel, should that be necessary for any reason.

 Thanks Sapphyre for this info. I'm just trying to understand how
they 'think' at the visa offices.

You can look at this situation in many different ways.
For example:

1. If she brings a small amount, say $300, they might say, "Well
that's not enough money to carry you over for 4 weeks, you must be
planning on finding work and staying longer".

2. If she brings a huge amount of money, a few thousand dollars, they
might say, "Well what do you plan on doing with all that money? Seems
to me you will be staying longer than just 4 weeks, perhaps finding a
job and not returning?"

It can cut many different ways.

So if she can bring a credit card, you recommend she does that.
How about the amount of cash to bring for four weeks, any suggestions?

TIA

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CanadaGuy@ether.net - 21 Sep 2007 03:55 GMT
>I understand that her application can basically be completed three
>different ways:
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>       society member).
>3. By representative (paid).

  Well I've decided to complete the application as her representative
(friend) and have a basic question about the procedure.

Once all of the forms have been completed and the supporting documents
collected, who should mail them to the consulate in China, my
girlfriend or me (the representative)?

A couple of documents require my signature the remainder hers.
The assignment of myself as representative requires both our
signatures.
What is the protocol here? Does it make a difference?

The advantage of my mailing them in means I can see all her supporting
documents (not that I can read Chinese).
The disadvantage is that the process can be held up by up to a month.
Her mailing them to me (up to two weeks) and my mailing them to China
(up to another two weeks).

TIA

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