Some questions about going to Canada
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redstararmy@gmail.com - 27 Sep 2007 17:55 GMT Hi all and thanks in advance for any help any of you can give me.
For some detail i'm a 23 yr old male, born and raised in Northern Ireland, with a batchelors degree in Network Computing and the obvious fluent english (no french as yet) and i'm considering applying for permanent residence as a skilled worker (federal) and hoping to move to the Hamilton, Ontario area near to where I have some family should it be successful. On the preliminary self test I received around the 67 point pass mark off the bat but if I suspect in the time it'll take to process i'll have another years work experience which will give me an extra point or two and things like that. I have a lot of questions though regarding the easiest way to apply, whether I can qualify for the "family class" application and some queries about the length of time and likelihood of success.
I have a great aunt (my fathers aunt), now retired, who moved to Canada from N.Ire in the 60's and as such have a number of cousins (although i'm not technically sure, they're probably 2nd cousins for me?) so i'm fairly sure this would be too distant for a family class application however i'm not certain. Anyone know for sure? Would this route be quicker than applied for skilled worker status if I was elligible? I'm close to my family out there and see them regularly enough (was there in August actually) and i've already been told by a few of them i'm more than welcome to stay with them for as long as it takes to get settled should I get in so I wouldn't be stepping off a plane into homelessness. I'm not sure how to add that information to any application I send...is it acceptable to add a letter or do they reject them and only look at the application form itself?
And also, if I can't use family class, do you reckon they'd give me some points in a skilled worker application considering the above family links even if they aren't quite as direct as say father or brother etc? Again would it be better to write a letter with the application giving details?
If family class isn't available I'm planning to send the simplified application for skilled worker in the coming days to the London office as I believe thats where all UK/Ireland applications have to be sent to. Is this true or can it be sent to any office and what are the issues if I sent it somewhere else? I've read it could be an issue if I was called to interview for example?
Can anyone with very recent experience give an idea of timeframe? I know on the CIC website it seems to mention around 3 to 4 years for London which seems very very long to me. Is it possible to get it done quicker somehow or do you really just have to sit on your hands for years waiting for an answer?
Hope i've been clear enough to understand and provided enough info...i'll reply if anyone needs more info to help me.
Thanks again
Al
PMM - 27 Sep 2007 18:57 GMT Hi
> Hi all and thanks in advance for any help any of you can give me. > [quoted text clipped - 50 lines] > > Al 1. As you will be applying under SAP, the application is assessed on the information that was submitted at the time of the application, is not updated. 2. You have to apply under skilled worker, the relatives are not close enough to give you the 5 adaptability points. 3. You have no choice, London it is. 4. It is probably longer, as those numbers are for applications already processed. 5. You best bet you decrease the waiting time is to find an employer in Canada who is willing to hire you, and the employer can obtain an LMO from HRSDC that there are no Canadians/PRs available for the job and that they have advertised. Then you could obtain a work permit, which will increase your points by working in Canada. Or the employer could obtain an Arranged employment option from HRSDC, stating that once you are landed, s/he will give you a permanent job. This will speed up the application in both London and Buffalo.
PMM
redstararmy@gmail.com - 27 Sep 2007 19:19 GMT > Hi > [quoted text clipped - 75 lines] > > PMM Thanks for the reply.
Re: 1) I was led to believe from the CIC site that when the application is processed, due to the time periods sometimes involved, that they contact you to get an update on your situation incase it has relevance to the application? 2) I thought this would be the case. 3) Again, thought so. 4) Really? It would be quicker to marry someone at this rate! 5) I'm visiting again in January/February and my relatives have been arranging to get me some time to meet their employers to find out what sort of skills they are looking for so I can improve where necessary. It seems difficult to get a job offer without having the right papers but it helps to have a job when applying for the papers...all a bit circular! If somehow I got a job and had already applied using the simplified method how simple would it be to arrange a work permit? Do they take years to be issued as well?
Thanks again
redstararmy@gmail.com - 27 Sep 2007 19:24 GMT On 27 Sep, 19:19, redstara...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Hi > [quoted text clipped - 96 lines] > > Thanks again further to no.1...I quote from the notes that accompany the simplified application form:
What Happens Next? The assessment of your application When the visa office is ready to assess your application, it will contact you, ask you to provide an update of your situation, and ask you to fill out a form with your history for the past years. The visa office will also send you a list of documents to submit, such as passport, proof of medical exam, police certificates, identity documents, proof of language test results, diplomas, etc.
Jim Humphries - 27 Sep 2007 20:02 GMT That information is for use in the background check. You have to comply at the original time of application with respect to the selection requirements.
 Signature Jim Humphries, Former Visa Officer
> On 27 Sep, 19:19, redstara...@gmail.com wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 124 lines] > medical exam, police certificates, identity > documents, proof of language test results, diplomas, etc. redstararmy@gmail.com - 27 Sep 2007 22:09 GMT > That information is for use in the background check. You have to comply at > the original time of application with respect to the selection requirements. [quoted text clipped - 132 lines] > > medical exam, police certificates, identity > > documents, proof of language test results, diplomas, etc. so in reality the absolute key is trying to arrange employment then...when i'm absolutely to the letter i'm just under 67 points at present. in a few years my experience then will take me over...yet it won't count?
Rassilon - 27 Sep 2007 22:28 GMT Thats basically the situation, you have to meet the requirements at the time of submission, not where you will be when the application is dusted off in 5+ years time.
If it's any consolation, I also took the assessment (can't recall if it was the higher or lower points criteria) & also was technically under the bar.
I however engaged the lawyers who agreed that I might manage to be accepted under adaptability because of the skill set I had & being self employed I had greater experience of surviving of my own back , but it was not guarrented.
Anyway after gathering all the documentary evidence together, taking the IELTS exam (which may seem a bit ridiculous) which boosts your English speaking skills up to maximum points.
Practical upshot is that after 21 months after forms submitted, I submitted updates, went straight to Medical 6 months later & I am now waiting (hopefully) for the final decsion\passport request.
Just do everything you can to boost your score a bit, even if that means taking conversational French just to scrape a extra few valuable points, The IELTS equivalent Test d’evaluation de Francais (TEF) would I imagine be valid for 2 years as per the IELTS, then have that ready in time to submit with the updates. ;)
All the best
redstararmy@gmail.com - 29 Sep 2007 18:50 GMT > Thats basically the situation, you have to meet the requirements at the time > of submission, not where you will be when the application is dusted off in 5+ [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > -- > Message posted viahttp://www.immigrationkb.com thanks all...
If I somehow managed to find a job at some point in the next few months would I just apply as normal using the regular application process and would it be sped up because of the job offer?
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