AP valid for only three months?
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vivsavage955 - 17 Sep 2004 23:52 GMT Hi all:
Well, we went to the SF USCIS office today to collect the EAD and AP documents, and to my surprise, the AP given to us was valid only until Dec. 19, 2004!
On our application, we indicated that we needed the AP for multiple entries (which we got) and that we would be using it for numerous international trips for both personal and work purposes over the next 12 months. I can understand limiting it to six months validity because of the expectation that we would get the CPR within that time, but only until December? It seems very strange, and of course the lady at the office had no clue and was no help.
Any thoughts? Or is this par for the course. The lady did indicate that we could re-apply for a new AP roughly three weeks before this one runs out. Any of the vets on the board who can weigh in would be much appreciated.
Thanks!
Rete - 18 Sep 2004 00:04 GMT > Hi all: > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Thanks! Did you bother to question them about the range of dates? Was it an interim EAD and A/P that you picked up or the "real" thing?
You are on the money with the fact that USCIS at one time only gave out A/P for a timeline in which they thought you would be waiting for the AOS to be adjudicated. SF is fast and if you got interim documents then it is possible that since you already have waited over 90 days then your AOS might well be within the next three months. Here's hoping.
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vivsavage955 - 18 Sep 2004 00:08 GMT > Did you bother to question them about the range of dates? Was it an > interim EAD and A/P that you picked up or the "real" thing? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > 90 days then your AOS might well be within the next three months. > Here's hoping. I did question them, and the lady's only response was "sometimes with K1s, they figure the AOS will happen sooner than our regular timeline. I don't know why they only gave you three months." The problem is, according to the processing dates posted on the site (I know they are unreliable, but they're all we have), SF is generally taking 9-10 months to process AOS. So we'll be in real trouble if we don't get interviewed by mid-December. We already had travel plans for New Years and into January which will now have to be cancelled.
And these weren't interim documents, they were the "real thing." I'm mystified.
Rete - 18 Sep 2004 00:32 GMT > I did question them, and the lady's only response was "sometimes with > K1s, they figure the AOS will happen sooner than our regular timeline. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > And these weren't interim documents, they were the "real thing." I'm > mystified. Me, too. Unless you get an AOS interview notice in the mail within the next two weeks, I would be filing for a new A/P by October to take up where the other leaves off.
Hopefully someone using SF will pipe in shortly and give a little insight into your dilemna.
Rete
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Boiler - 18 Sep 2004 03:22 GMT > Me, too. Unless you get an AOS interview notice in the mail within > the next two weeks, I would be filing for a new A/P by October to take [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Rete I am supposing that you did not go through Missouri.
I received mine from MSC a couple of weeks ago, multiple and for a year.
The EAD was preocessed at the same time, they arrived within a couple of days of each other, the e mail notification was the same time.
lance99 - 18 Sep 2004 21:56 GMT > Me, too. Unless you get an AOS interview notice in the mail within > the next two weeks, I would be filing for a new A/P by October to take [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Rete Well, do you have to pay for each renewal? If so, you're looking at $500+ annually for someone who travels a lot.
vivsavage955 - 20 Sep 2004 06:40 GMT > Well, do you have to pay for each renewal? If so, you're looking at > $500+ annually for someone who travels a lot. I'm sure you do. And you hit the nail on the head ... this is really a pain if indeed we are forced to keep reapplying for AP so that we have it valid for the next 6-9 months while we wait for AOS. This seems like a San Francisco-specific peculiarity, as others seem to be obtaining AP for one year validity.
We've got an Infopass appointment in 10 days and we'll go see what they say...it can't hurt to go in there and plead for longer. Maybe if they are told that we will have to submit another AP to add to their backlog, they might be swayed. I think the most hilarious part of this is that it's valid for literally 90 days and yet it says "multiple entries." Someone at SF USCIS must have an odd sense of humor. :(
vivsavage955 - 28 Sep 2004 19:36 GMT > I'm sure you do. And you hit the nail on the head ... this is really a > pain if indeed we are forced to keep reapplying for AP so that we have [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > is that it's valid for literally 90 days and yet it says "multiple > entries." Someone at SF USCIS must have an odd sense of humor. :( Just an update for anyone who might've been following this thread a couple weeks ago...
This morning, we went to the SF District Office for our Infopass appointment to inquire about the extremely short validity (3 months) of our AP. We didn't have to wait more than 5-10 minutes to go to the information officer who doles out numbers to see a USCIS officer.
Standing behind this guy was a supervisor-type person who was overseeing people's initial requests. As he heard us speaking to the information officer, he intervened and asked to see our AP. He told us that the AP was only granted for three months because we will likely be interviewed by the end of the year. I had printed out the latest processing times for SFO which has them working on I-485s from February and held it up as I said, "How could we be in here by the end of the year when you are only working on February?" We submitted in June, btw.
He responded, "Those times aren't for San Francisco. They aren't accurate." So I said, "But this says San Francisco USCIS on it." He said, "Well, you might be surprised."
Anyway, long story short, I asked him what to do if we had a trip planned for January, and he said to apply for a new AP no longer than one month prior to the trip. He said, a bit menancingly, that he himself would be the one reviewing our application and that he would "remember us." He then said that if we submitted an AP for a trip earlier than January, he would "send it back to us" because he would remember that today we had claimed it would be in January. It was an odd exchange, to say the least.
Anyway, he said that SF USCIS only takes 10 working days to process AP applications other than those submitted in conjunction with I-485 (those are taking about 8 weeks right now). He reassured us that if we had a trip planned, we could wait until 4 weeks prior and submit a new AP request.
So...we'll keep our fingers crossed for our interview date to come up sooner than expected, and we'll wait to submit a new AP application sometime toward the end of November.
Convoluted, eh? But it's not the first time, nor, I fear, will it be the last. ;)
Boiler - 28 Sep 2004 19:43 GMT > Just an update for anyone who might've been following this thread a > couple weeks ago... [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > Convoluted, eh? But it's not the first time, nor, I fear, will it be > the last. ;) There was a post elsewhere about what were the benefits in becoming a Citizen.
I think your experiance is the perfect answer!
Noorah101 - 28 Sep 2004 22:44 GMT > There was a post elsewhere about what were the benefits in becoming a > Citizen. > > I think your experiance is the perfect answer! Hi Boiler,
Just curious why you say that. Even a PR doesn't need AP to travel. Being a citizen vs. permanent resident in this scenario wouldn't make any difference, would it?
Rene
hcj1440 - 28 Sep 2004 20:11 GMT > Just an update for anyone who might've been following this thread a > couple weeks ago... [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > Convoluted, eh? But it's not the first time, nor, I fear, will it be > the last. ;) I had the exact same experience a few months ago (April-May of this year) with the SF office.
In April, at ten months post-AOS interview with no word of approval, we finally woke up and realized that maybe approval is not just around the corner. So we applied for a new AP - which they promptly granted, for a period of 3 months, dating from the day they received our application. So by the time we went to pick it up, it was good for about 2 months and 1 week.
It pissed me off to no end. I was doing the math and thinking we had to spend $500 per year on AP. Plus having to take off work and go pick it up since SF does not mail it. Why couldn't they grant a one-year, multi- entry AP like every other office in the country?
I still don't know if it was SOP or if they knew we were getting approved soon, but we did get approved the month after. Coincidentally (or maybe not), we got approved 3 weeks after I contacted my congressman and asked him to do a status inquiry since they didn't bother to respond to any of my inquiries.
BTW, our first AP out of the SF office was good for about 7 months - it was good for exactly 1 month after our original interview appointment. They ended up postponing our interview but that's another story.
leoleo - 30 Sep 2004 18:42 GMT > Just an update for anyone who might've been following this thread a > couple weeks ago... [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > Convoluted, eh? But it's not the first time, nor, I fear, will it be > the last. ;) When they post I-485 processing dates, I always interpreted them to mean that those are the cases that they are currently making a decision on. Don't all the dates they post go by this format?
So the officer could be right when he said you likely would be interviewed by the end of the year (whether they actually do schedule you by then, don't hold your breath heh), because while they may be working on cases received in February, you still need to go thru the interview process. If you aren't approved at the time of interview, that's when I would start looking at the processing date.
At least that's how I see it.
I have a friend who filed an Adjustment of Status for his wife with the SF District Office back in February or March, and they were interviewed in early July if that helps. I think they're case is still pending though.
Dekka's Angel - 18 Sep 2004 13:09 GMT > Hi all: > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Thanks! This may well be SOP out of San Francisco. This happened to Dekkie as well - he got an AP for 2 months, even though we'd applied for a full year, with listed trips, elderly ill parents, the works. There was at least one other couple that was posting here when we went through last October that also got a very short AP despite requesting the full year multi-entry one. So I'm thinking this might be par for the course.
Hopefully you'll get your AOS interview soon (ours was 5 1/2 months later), so it won't be too bad.
Good luck!
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GARRET - 18 Sep 2004 19:15 GMT > This may well be SOP out of San Francisco. This happened to Dekkie as > well - he got an AP for 2 months, even though we'd applied for a full [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Good luck! Hi, My CPR came in less than a month from SF, but that was 2 years+ ago and I'm still waiting for my LPR card. They're pretty quick but I wouldn't wait too long for it. BTW Used the info pass at SF this week and I was in & out in 15 mins - shame I used the parking lot instead of a meter!
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