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Income Tax Returns-Thinking Ahead

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UKintheUSA - 30 Oct 2004 23:49 GMT
Our lawyer said that one of the things the INS looks for is Jointly
filed tax returns.  What if he does not have a SS number by then?  Do I
still put him on the return? ..........................any chance the
legal fees and all the filing fees are tax deductible?  LOL
Hey...................what the heck?  You don't know unless you ask!
Bob - 31 Oct 2004 00:13 GMT
> Our lawyer said that one of the things the INS looks for is Jointly
> filed tax returns.  What if he does not have a SS number by then?  Do
> I still put him on the return? ..........................any chance
> the legal fees and all the filing fees are tax deductible?  LOL
> Hey...................what the heck?  You don't know unless you ask!

If he doesnt't has a ssn number, there's another number you can get, TIN
(Tax id number) I think...
sphyrapicus - 31 Oct 2004 00:18 GMT
> If he doesnt't has a ssn number, there's another number you can get,
> TIN (Tax id number) I think...

What is an ITIN?

An Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) is a tax processing
number issued by the Internal Revenue Service. It is a nine-digit number
that always begins with the number 9 and has a 7 or 8 in the fourth
digit, example 9XX-7X-XXXX.

IRS issues ITINs to individuals who are required to have a U.S. taxpayer
identification number but who do not have, and are not eligible to
obtain a Social Security Number (SSN) from the Social Security
Administration (SSA).
ITINs are issued regardless of immigration status because both resident
and nonresident aliens may have U.S. tax return and payment
responsibilities under the Internal Revenue Code.

Individuals must have a filing requirement and file a valid federal
income tax return to receive an ITIN, unless they meet an exception.

http://www.irs.gov/individuals/article/0,,id=96287,00.html#what
meauxna - 31 Oct 2004 00:42 GMT
> What is an ITIN?
>
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>
> http://www.irs.gov/individuals/article/0,,id=96287,00.html#what

It's sorta like you get possesed sometimes... these answers just spurt
out in government-speak.
Noorah101 - 31 Oct 2004 00:46 GMT
> What is an ITIN?
>
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>
> http://www.irs.gov/individuals/article/0,,id=96287,00.html#what

So does this mean that if you ARE eligible for a SSN (as a K1 entrant
is) then you can't apply for an ITIN number?  Or, if you've already
applied but are still waiting for the SSN, you can't get an ITIN number?

Rene
Noorah101 - 31 Oct 2004 00:21 GMT
> Our lawyer said that one of the things the INS looks for is Jointly
> filed tax returns.  What if he does not have a SS number by then?  Do
> I still put him on the return? ..........................any chance
> the legal fees and all the filing fees are tax deductible?  LOL
> Hey...................what the heck?  You don't know unless you ask!

Well, supposedly he's not working w/o a SSN anyway, right?  So if he
hasn't gotten his SSN and hasn't had any income, there won't be anything
to report on his behalf.  But you can get him TIN number in the
meantime, I think.  That's a good question...would a married couple
still file a joint return if one of them has no earnings?  I guess the
would, huh?  Not sure!

My accountant has informed me that immigration-related expenses are not
tax deductable, though...bummer.

Best Wishes,
Rene
meauxna - 31 Oct 2004 00:44 GMT
> Well, supposedly he's not working w/o a SSN anyway, right?  So if he
> hasn't gotten his SSN and hasn't had any income, there won't be
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> Best Wishes,
> Rene

to the last Q; yes, yes. you may find it more beneficial. There's 2
kinds of 'married' filing, so always check which is best for your
situation *that* year.

And, to the income... investment income from his family fortune!
UKintheUSA - 31 Oct 2004 10:52 GMT
> to the last Q; yes, yes. you may find it more beneficial. There's 2
> kinds of 'married' filing, so always check which is best for your
> situation *that* year.
>
> And, to the income... investment income from his family fortune!

And, to the income... investment income from his family fortune![/QUOTE]

Yeah, right! hahahahahh

Thanks for the replys.  I never heard of the TIN.  Why would he need
that though if he has not worked?  Just to be on the form so I get a
greater deduction?  I could really use some this year...............One
income...........
Lawyers fees and Immigration fees............you all know what it's
like!
Bummer on the fee's not being tax deductible.
anon - 31 Oct 2004 11:24 GMT
>>to the last Q; yes, yes. you may find it more beneficial. There's 2
>>kinds of 'married' filing, so always check which is best for your
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> that though if he has not worked?  Just to be on the form so I get a
> greater deduction?

Bigger standard deduction, and one more exemption
 
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