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VAWA I-360 approved. Need advise

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chicago2004 - 22 Feb 2005 03:49 GMT
Hi,
I am a new member. I am in Chicago.

My VAWA case got approved in the end of 2004. I had the fingerprint in
Jan. 2005, . Before VAWA, My husband filed I-485 for me in Oct. 2003. I
am wondering what is the process after the VAWA case approved to getting
the GC.  During waiting, what should I do for the GC?

My husband is still abusing me time to time. I am afraid to divorce
because I really don't know what's going on for the process of the GC.

Thank you for sharing any your opinions and experience.
Hypertweeky - 22 Feb 2005 03:57 GMT
> Hi,
> I am a new member. I am in Chicago.
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>
> Thank you for sharing any your opinions and experience.

Ouch!, poor you:(
I am very happy to hear your VAWA case was approved, I am not familiar
with this procedure but I found this on the net:
http://uscis.gov/graphics/howdoi/battered.htm
Hope that helps!, I wish you nothing but the very best.
Sorry I can't be of anymore help!
Take care please.
chicago2004 - 22 Feb 2005 05:21 GMT
> Ouch!, poor you:(
> I am very happy to hear your VAWA case was approved, I am not familiar
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> Sorry I can't be of anymore help!
> Take care please.

Thank you.
Hypertweeky - 22 Feb 2005 05:25 GMT
> Thank you.

You are welcome girlie, come back and visit us anytime!!
1Duckie - 22 Feb 2005 04:38 GMT
> Hi,
> I am a new member. I am in Chicago.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Thank you for sharing any your opinions and experience.

He last man that laid a hand on me ate a dog food sandwich... for real.

It was the first time I ever deserved to be a.s whipped and it
was the last.

I haven't a clue what VAWA is so I cannot comment on that ... but I wish
you happiness and strength to get out of that relationship.
Hypertweeky - 22 Feb 2005 05:20 GMT
> He last man that laid a hand on me ate a dog food sandwich...
> for real.
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> I haven't a clue what VAWA is so I cannot comment on that ... but I
> wish you happiness and strength to get out of that relationship.

The Violence Against Women Act. Nothing pretty really:(
OP: If after reading the link I gave you, you have questions come back
and ask, someone might be able to help, if you don't have any questions
but would like to hang out with us, you are VERY welcome!!:)
Andrew DeFaria - 22 Feb 2005 07:00 GMT
> Hi,
> I am a new member. I am in Chicago.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Thank you for sharing any your opinions and experience.

If you're getting hit then get out, get out,  GET OUT! No sense staying,
no matter GC or no GC. One day he might just kill you. Then the GC means
nothing.

If your VAWA case got approved then doesn't that mean that you are clear
to self-petition (or perhaps even already AOSed). If that's the case
then I don't see why you would not also have a GC.

But to me something is not right here. Generally VAWA's are for women
that are being battered and seek to get out from under the batterer
without fear of being deported. I thought one of the (almost)
requirements would be that you are not still living with the guy but
above it seems as if you still are. I find it hard to believe that they
would approve a VAWA case with you still there.

Why are you still there? It's dangerous and there is no reason why you
should remain there. There are a lot of agencies that will help you and
I suspect you probably have been in contact with them already (lay
people and foreigners generally don't know what stuff like VAWA is). As
such I find it hard to believe they would not be strongly advising you
to leave this man. My understanding is that they also have many
resources and access to legal help for such cases. Haven't you been
using the help that has been being offered to you? Why wouldn't you have
asked legal counsel what your options are? Why would you ignore such
assistance and instead come here to a newsgroup of rank amateurs? Makes
me wonder...
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1Duckie - 22 Feb 2005 07:34 GMT
> > Hi,
> > I am a new member. I am in Chicago.
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> --
> Demons are a Ghouls best Friend.

I understand now.. GET OUT.. WHY ARE YOU THERE?  There is no logical
reason you should be with that guy.  You are causing problems for
yourself that only you can control and no one in this forum will be able
to help you.
Andrew DeFaria - 22 Feb 2005 15:33 GMT
>>> Hi,
>>> I am a new member. I am in Chicago. My VAWA case got approved in the
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
> yourself that only you can control and no one in this forum will be
> able to help you.

I'm not the one with the problem. Why then did you respond to my post as
if I was? Just a misquote?
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1Duckie - 22 Feb 2005 16:47 GMT
> >>> Hi,
> >>> I am a new member. I am in Chicago. My VAWA case got approved in
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> An ounce of practice is worth more than tons of preaching. -
> Mohandas Gandhi

sorry bout that...
chicago2004 - 23 Feb 2005 04:50 GMT
> sorry bout that...

Thank you for your words and concern.

My husband is addicted to alcohol. His family has problem with alcohol.
After I got protection order last summer. He cannot drink at home. He
still drinks time to time. I know it’s difficult for him to quit drink.
He asked his attorney to write a letter to drop I-485. So I have no
choice to file the VAWA through one origination. The attorney who helps
me file the VAWA case told me that I had to wait for the interview. I
post at this forum because I thought there might be someone who has same
experience as mine.

I appreciate all your help and concern.
Andrew DeFaria - 23 Feb 2005 05:36 GMT
>> sorry bout that...
>
> Thank you for your words and concern.
>
> My husband is addicted to alcohol. His family has problem with alcohol.

Did you not see this prior to agreeing to marry him?

> After I got protection order last summer. He cannot drink at home. He
> still drinks time to time.

What do you mean that he cannot drink at home? What kind of protection
order did you get? I've never heard of a protection order that just
stipulates that the other person cannot drink but otherwise the two can
be together. Even if there is one you need the other kind - one that
states that he cannot be within X feet of you or he's in violation of
the order.

> I know it’s difficult for him to quit drink.

That is not your problem.

> He asked his attorney to write a letter to drop I-485. So I have no
> choice to file the VAWA through one origination.

The VAWA is only if you are being abused and/or threatened with harm. It
has nothing to do really with the I-485. Since you have stated that you
have been abused then the VAWA is indeed for you. Whether he drops the
I-485 is irrelevant because as I understand it the VAWA is a way for you
to adjust status independently from him since he's an abuser. IOW it
does not matter to you that he has dropped the I-485.

> The attorney who helps me file the VAWA case told me that I had to
> wait for the interview. I post at this forum because I thought there
> might be someone who has same experience as mine.

Your original post is concerned with getting a green card. I assume you
want that to start working and provide for yourself. What did your
attorney say about that? That's the person you should be asking - not us.

> I appreciate all your help and concern.

Get a stay away protection order on your husband. Have no further
contact with him. Contact your lawyer and ask him how you go about
getting a green card/work authorization. Meantime file for separation
and/or divorce proceedings. Keep away from your husband - only have
contact with him through lawyers - and keep yourself away and safe.
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Hypertweeky - 23 Feb 2005 05:53 GMT
> Thank you for your words and concern.
>
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>
> I appreciate all your help and concern.

I totally miss-read your post!
Oh my gosh!, you are still with that man??, Sorry if this sounds harsh
but don't be stupid, get the h*** out!!:(
Pallyn - 23 Feb 2005 17:54 GMT
> I totally miss-read your post!
> Oh my gosh!, you are still with that man??, Sorry if this sounds harsh
> but don't be stupid, get the h*** out!!:(

Just a little perspective.  The last stats I had stated that 75% of
women who were killed by their partners were killed trying to leave.
Only she knows her husband's triggers and maybe she is doing the best
she can with what she's got.
jessie126 - 23 Feb 2005 18:47 GMT
> Thank you for your words and concern.
>
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>
> I appreciate all your help and concern.

Hi.  I'm also new here but I'm familiar with your case.  A dear friend
of mine has the same case. She is also waiting for the interview.

If your I-360 has been approved, then you can adjust your status right
away since you are a spouse of a USC.   I believe you already filed I-
485.  Did you get your EAD card?   You just have to wait for the
interview.

Here's a link that can help you.  This is really helpful.  I hope it
helps.

http://www.ilrc.org/vawa/

J
chicago2004 - 24 Feb 2005 04:40 GMT
> Hi.  I'm also new here but I'm familiar with your case.  A dear friend
> of mine has the same case. She is also waiting for the interview.
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>
> J

Thank you all for the concern.
It’s so difficult to do the thing that you suggested. I just found a job
and started to work. I thought many times to leave him…
Any way, I really appreciate all your words, and help. Thank you.

Jessie126 thank you for your post. Can I e-mail you directly to ask some
questions?
jessie126 - 24 Feb 2005 05:07 GMT
> Thank you all for the concern.
> It’s so difficult to do the thing that you suggested. I just found a
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> Jessie126 thank you for your post. Can I e-mail you directly to ask
> some questions?

You are most welcome.  I'll send you a PM with my email address.

J
Andrew DeFaria - 24 Feb 2005 17:52 GMT
>> Hi. I'm also new here but I'm familiar with your case. A dear friend
>> of mine has the same case. She is also waiting for the interview.
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> Thank you all for the concern. It’s so difficult to do the thing that
> you suggested.

What might that be? Because the above really doesn't have a suggestion
except for the link.

> I just found a job and started to work. I thought many times to leave him…

Yeah and what stopped you? I'm curious.

> Any way, I really appreciate all your words, and help. Thank you.
>
> Jessie126 thank you for your post. Can I e-mail you directly to ask
> some questions?

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Jenney & Mark - 23 Feb 2005 05:34 GMT
> > Hi,
> > I am a new member. I am in Chicago.
[quoted text clipped - 45 lines]
> --
> Demons are a Ghouls best Friend.

That didn't seem right to me, either -- it just contradicts common
sense. But then, we are talking about USCIS here...

According to the USCIS website, there is apparently nothing requiring a
self-petitioning battered spouse to live apart from her/his abusive
spouse, or even to get divorced, for that matter. Essentially it's like
saying, "Hey, if you're being abused, we'll give you a way to adjust
status without the help of your abusive partner, but whether you stay in
the abusive environment is not really our concern."

As you said to the OP -- her adjustment should definitely not be
her first concern here. A green card doesn't do you much good if
you're dead.

~ Jenney
Andrew DeFaria - 23 Feb 2005 06:50 GMT
> That didn't seem right to me, either -- it just contradicts common
> sense. But then, we are talking about USCIS here...
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> adjust status without the help of your abusive partner, but whether
> you stay in the abusive environment is not really our concern."

While the law may be silent regarding whether or not she could adjust on
a VAWA while still living with the abuser, the VAWA needs to be
approved. I find it highly unlikely that a person would believe an abuse
claim if the abused is still living with the abuser^1 . Usually they
just about require a stay away protective order and/or evidence of being
put up in a homeless shelter. However it does seem like the OP had
already said that her VAWA case was approved. Interesting. There is
probably way more to the story than she's letting on to. I would hope
that VAWA petitions are scrutinized a little more thoroughly than that.
But I guess it is conceivable that the lady might think she'd be in more
danger by leaving before the VAWA petition was approved. I wonder why
she doesn't leave now.

I also find it hard to believe that, assuming she is getting some
assistance through things like batter women's shelters, immigration
specialists and the like who are supposed to help such people, they are
not strongly advising her to get out pronto.

1) I'm not meaning to say that abuse complaints are unheard of when the
abused stays with the abuser - but usually if you are gonna file a
complaint (and/or the VAWA thing) you've already made up your mine to
take action and/or you have already had several incidents with possible
police action, hospital stays and various protective orders threatened
or applied (something more substantial than "he can stay here as long as
he doesn't drink" and I would think that that action would usually
include either leaving or a solid plan to leave. IOW, to me, it seems a
little bit fishy.

> As you said to the OP -- her adjustment should definitely not be her
> first concern here. A green card doesn't do you much good if you're dead.

Right.
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chrissy52502 - 30 May 2005 13:18 GMT
> That didn't seem right to me, either -- it just contradicts common
> sense. But then, we are talking about USCIS here...
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>
> ~ Jenney

If you have never been in an abusive situation and having immigration
involved, there really is no room to make comments as such. Sometimes it
is hard to get out, trust me I know. You are trying to make a life in
this country but yet you have someone controlling it in one way or
another! USCIS is trying to protect someone that married a us citizen in
good faith. It is not her fault that he is treating her that way, USCIS
recognizes these matters as such.

So please, before making judgement on these situations, live it and
experience it before saying anything about it!!!
ian-mstm - 30 May 2005 14:37 GMT
> If you have never been in an abusive situation and having immigration
> involved, there really is no room to make comments as such. Sometimes
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> So please, before making judgement on these situations, live it and
> experience it before saying anything about it!!!

You seem a little disturbed by Jenney's post. She's right though...
USCIS does not care one way or the other whether or not the abuser and
the victim still live together. That is not their concern... they are
not agents for social change. Although you may have interpreted it that
way, Jenney was not minimizing domestic violence.

Oh please! By analogy, you're suggesting that before passing judgment on
how bad murder is or how USCIS doesn't care if you are killed, a person
has to be murdered in order to understand. Twit!

Ian
whiskers - 30 May 2005 14:57 GMT
> You seem a little disturbed by Jenney's post. She's right though...
> USCIS does not care one way or the other whether or not the abuser and
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>
> Ian

This thread is a few months old now I am wondering what the outcome was?
as once you get to the 1-485 interview you still have to prove why you
cannot return to your home country threw extreme hardship, even if it
was cleared in the first instance within the 1-360, she will have to
have a upto date valid reason.

Whiskers
chrissy52502 - 30 May 2005 21:29 GMT
> You seem a little disturbed by Jenney's post. She's right though...
> USCIS does not care one way or the other whether or not the abuser and
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>
> Ian

LMAO TWIT! USCIS let's you move and live on your own and still
apply,,,who's the twit now?
ian-mstm - 30 May 2005 22:06 GMT
> LMAO TWIT! USCIS let's you move and live on your own and still
> apply,,,who's the twit now?

<shrug> I dunno... you maybe?

Ian
chrissy52502 - 31 May 2005 03:45 GMT
> <shrug> I dunno... you maybe?
>
> Ian

LMFAO!!! Get over it
ian-mstm - 22 Feb 2005 13:15 GMT
> Hi,
> I am a new member. I am in Chicago.
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>
> Thank you for sharing any your opinions and experience.

I don't mean to sound insensitive, but getting a GC shouldn't even be on
your priority list just now! Get safe first - then worry about
immigration... it's not like you're going to be deported or anything.

Ian
Jonathan McNeil Wong - 25 Feb 2005 05:58 GMT
> Hi,
> I am a new member. I am in Chicago.
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>
> Thank you for sharing any your opinions and experience.

The procedure under VAWA is:

(1) File I-360 with the Vermont Service Center.

(2) When I-360 is approved (I understand that it has been), file I-485
if your priority date is current.    If your husband is a US citizen,
then your priority date is current.  If your husbaned is an LPR and
filed Form I-130 for you, you are entitled to use the priority date
established by the I-130 even if the I-360 was filed later.

(3) Your husband cannot withdraw your I-485.  Only you can do that.
Write to the office where your I-485 is pending and enclose a copy of
your I-360 approval notice.  Put your "A" number on the letter in a
prominent place.  Request that your I-485 continue to be processed even
if the underlying I-130 is withdrawn.  This protects you against
retaliation from your husband.

(4) If your I-485 is not based on your marriage but rather is based on
derivative status from your husband (example: he filed an I-485 based on
his job, and you are filing as a derivative family member), you are
still entitled to have your I-485 processed based on your VAWA approval.
 If this is the case, the I-485 is probably pending at a Service Center
rather than at your local USCIS office.  Follow the same procedure as in
(3) above.

I hope that you will keep us posted in the group so that we know you are ok.
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