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Immigration Forum / USA Marriage Base / May 2005Fixing I-864 mistakes after notarizing?
Hi, After going over hubby's I-864's for me and kidlet (got them in the mail from him today) I noticed he made a few mistakes. 1) He left his SSN box blank (no clue why) 2) He left kidlet's middle name box blank (hard to spell in English, he meant to check how it's spelled and then forgot) 3) Number of people in household: on the line where it should have read '1' (just him) he put '3' (the total). The rest was correct ('2' for no. of immigrants sponsored and '3' for household total). Can I just fill in the blanks and use some white-out to correct these mistakes? After all, it's been notarized... I hate to mess with that. Elaine  SignatureHelp Find Jason! Missing since 2001. Read his story at http://tinyurl.com/bvt4l > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Elaine I'd normally be hesitant to make corrections, but since you're adding information in blank spaces, I don't see that it can hurt. It's probably not too big a deal either to correct a number. I'm sure this happens from time to time. Ian > I'd normally be hesitant to make corrections, but since you're adding > information in blank spaces, I don't see that it can hurt. It's > probably not too big a deal either to correct a number. I'm sure this > happens from time to time. > > Ian Hello, Unfortunatly, once a document has been "notarized" it is a NO-NO to add additional information "after the fact" and it is most definitely a NO- NO after you have left the presence of that notary. The notary is basically confirming that the information before them on a "specific date" is true and correct to the "best of their knowledge." No one should be made to think/ believe that adding information to a document after it has been notarized is OK! And correcting/ changing numbers, figures, names et... is a very BAD idea after the fact. Just redo the document, very simple. davidM > Hello, > Unfortunatly, once a document has been "notarized" it is a NO-NO to [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > document, very simple. > davidM Hi David, Actually, that's not always true. Sometimes the notary is simply there to watch the person sign, and verify that that signature is indeed his/her own. The notary doesn't always verify that anything on the form itself is true and correct. Just that the signer is who he claims to be. Rene > Hi David, > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Rene Hey Rene, Yes and no...lol. When the signatory signs a document and has it notarized by a notary, the notary verifies the signature, yes. The notary cannot know for certain that the "information" provided is true and correct but the notary is verifying the signature, so in "essance" the notary is verifying that the signatory has provided information that is true and correct. If the signatory provides "false" information and has it notarized, this verifies the signature in "essance" it may also verify they have "willingly" provided false information. This could be considered fraud. Never, never, never, provide false information on a document and have it notarized. I wouldn't add additional information to a document that was previously notarized! davidM > Hey Rene, > Yes and no...lol. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > was previously notarized! > davidM Hi David, I beg to differ. :) When the notary signs it, the notary is only stating that the signer is indeed who he claims to be, by getting a picture ID and sometimes a fingerprint. It has nothing to do with the information contained in the document itself. Rene :) > Hi David, > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Rene :) Rene.... ok, ok....lol. Lets put it in its basic term. If you provided "true" information on a document and had it notarized... all is well, the signature has been verified. If you provided "false" information on a document and have it notarized, you are *ucked.... because your signature has been verified. davidM > Rene.... ok, ok....lol. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > verified. > davidM From http://www.sdsos.gov/notaries/sevenconc.htm 1. A notary is to serve any person who makes a lawful and reasonable request for a notarization. 2. A notary is an impartial witness to a transaction. 3. A notarization does not prove truthfulness of the contents of a document, nor validate a document and render it legal. 4. A notarization provides verification of a document signer’s willingness to sign, his competence to sign, and that the signer is, indeed, the person identified by the signature. 5. If a notary has any doubt about a signer’s identity, it is best not to notarize that signature. 6. Notaries are encouraged to utilize a "credible witness" when in doubt about a person’s identity. A "credible witness" is any person who personally knows the signer of a document. The notary should likewise personally know the credible witness. The credible witness may, under oath from the notary, attest to the identity of the document signer. Remember, the credible witness should be impartial to the transaction being notarized. 7. A notary should never notarize a signature not made or authenticated in the notary’s presence! This is the most important rule to protect a notary from legal liability. Please note number 3 on the list. Rene > Hello, > Unfortunatly, once a document has been "notarized" it is a NO-NO to [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > document, very simple. > davidM David, The notary is conforming nothing about the information contained in a document. They are confirming only that the person who signed the document is who they claim to be. Regards, JEff SignatureOf course, the Internet also tells us that hot naked women want to befriend us, so we can't be 100% sure about everything we read there. (Dave Barry) > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Elaine Don't white out anything. Add the SS number in the blank and the kidlet's middle name. Put a single line through the incorrect numbers and next to them enter the correct number. SignatureI'm not an attorney. This disclaimer is valid in NYS! > Don't white out anything. Add the SS number in the blank and the > kidlet's middle name. Put a single line through the incorrect numbers > and next to them enter the correct number. I would shred it & fill again and get notarized. I guess Notary is the only thing you get for free... > I would shred it & fill again and get notarized. I guess Notary is > the only thing you get for free... Depends on where you notarize. Most notaries charge $10 SignatureI'm not an attorney. This disclaimer is valid in NYS! > Depends on where you notarize. Most notaries charge $10 Lost the thread... Did read Rete and Ian's replies when they were posted though. We did opt to go with new ones. I discovered even more mistakes later on and, well, lets just leave it at this being the first little quarrel of our marriage... lol. Elaine SignatureHelp Find Jason! Missing since 2001. Read his story at http://tinyurl.com/bvt4l most banks will notarize papers free if you maintain an account with them...our did and they even wrote us a nice letter for our 485 interview. bb > most banks will notarize papers free if you maintain an account with > them...our did and they even wrote us a nice letter for our 485 > interview. > > bb Brenda, What kind of letter from the bank help in Interview? I have quite a good friendship and relationship with bank manager. I would appreciate your response. call your congressman's office there is a person who works there only works with visas and they can help you...... bb > call your congressman's office there is a person who works there only > works with visas and they can help you...... > bb Brenda, I'm a little bit puzzled if you meant to post your reply about the congress person in this thread.... I hardly think this is something we need the help of a congress person for. Thanks for the bank suggestion. A family friend of Mr. HunterGreen is a notary public, so that's not going to be an issue either. Are you still on cloud nine? :) Elaine SignatureHelp Find Jason! Missing since 2001. Read his story at http://tinyurl.com/bvt4l |
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