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Immigration Forum / USA Marriage Base / August 2005Selective Service Requirements.
http://www.sss.gov/FSwho.htm "Almost all male U.S. citizens, and male aliens living in the U.S., who are 18 through 25, are required to register with Selective Service"... ...."Almost all male noncitizens are required to register, including illegal aliens, legal permanent residents, and refugees. The general rule is that if a male noncitizen takes up residency in the U.S. before his 26th birthday, he must register with Selective Service." On my current visa being an exchange visitor/student I was not required to register to Selective Service when I arrived in the U.S. Now that I am adjusting status to that of LPR its becomes mandatory for me to register. However, I will be turning 26 (yes I know, still a spring chicken) around that time of filing my AOS paperwork. Would I still be required to register? Do they take a persons age on the day that they file for adjustment of status or the day that my LPR status is approved? If it's the latter of the two, then I would surely not have to register. Just curious to learn what the general ruling would be on the age requirement as close as mine. ~Sean~ > http://www.sss.gov/FSwho.htm > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > ~Sean~ If I were in your shoes and male, I would register the day I applied for residency. There is no draft at the moment, plus, as you noted, you will be 26 shortly afterwards and therefore, ineligible for the draft.  SignatureI'm not an attorney. This disclaimer is valid in NYS! > If I were in your shoes and male, I would register the day I > applied for residency. There is no draft at the moment, plus, as > you noted, you will be 26 shortly afterwards and therefore, > ineligible for the draft. I wasn't aware that it is a seperate process from AOS, I thought one would automatically be regsitered if you fall within the requirements when you file for LPR status. But if I 'have to' register seperately for it, then I guess by me turning 26 around that time then it would not effect me... and like you said Rete, I would then be ineligible and not need to register :) Hopefully it wouldn't be an issue, and am I correct in assuming that even if you regsitered at the age of 25, once you turn 26 then you are no longer considered anyway and will be excluded from any draft should it happen? > I wasn't aware that it is a seperate process from AOS, I thought one > would automatically be regsitered if you fall within the requirements [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > are no longer considered anyway and will be excluded from any draft > should it happen? Yes to both. It is a separate process. However, note if you are required to file and did not before your 26th birthday you will delay naturalization eligibility until you are 29th. For you this will not be an issue since you will not be a PR until after your 26th birthday and therefore not eligible for naturalization until three years after that date. However, for others who are say 24 when they become PRs and are eligible for naturalization in three years (age 27), they will have to wait until age 29 to apply because not filing is a sign of not being of good moral character. SignatureI'm not an attorney. This disclaimer is valid in NYS! > Yes to both. It is a separate process. However, note if you are > required to file and did not before your 26th birthday you will delay [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > wait until age 29 to apply because not filing is a sign of not being > of good moral character. Interesting! So basically, they take the date that you get your PR status approved, and that is when you are required to reisgter for the Selective Service and not while you are pending adjustment of status? Meh, either way, I was just curious to know whether I would or wouldn't have to register for this, with my 26 birthday being right ontop of when I file for AOS, and also good to know that it won't affect my naturalization process in 3 yrs time :) Thx for the input Rete > Interesting! So basically, they take the date that you get your PR > status approved, and that is when you are required to reisgter for the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Thx for the input Rete A friend of mine went ahead and sent in the registration form while he was 25 and had Pending AOS status, just to make sure. He figured if he wasn't eligible, they'd disregard his form, and if he was eligible, then great...he didn't jeopardize his future naturalization. He had to actually print the form and mail it in...it wouldn't accept his on- line submission. He figured better safe than sorry. As it turned out, he just became a PR, and is still 25, so it's a good thing he mailed it in! :) Rene > A friend of mine went ahead and sent in the registration form while he > was 25 and had Pending AOS status, just to make sure. He figured if [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Rene Morning Reneeee, you sleep in eh? ;) So you think its worthwhile to register anyway, and let them make the decission of whether I'm eligible and 25 yrs and 350+ days or not? hehe Did your friend ever hear back from them and what was there decission? > Morning Reneeee, you sleep in eh? ;) > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Did your friend ever hear back from them and what was there decission? No sleeping in for me! I actually had some real work to do! LOL My friend hasn't heard anything back from Selective Service, but then again not sure if he was supposed to. The only proof he has of registering, is a photocopy of what he mailed in, with a handwritten date when it was mailed. I wonder if there's a way to check on line and see if his name is in their registry? Rene > No sleeping in for me! I actually had some real work to do! LOL My > friend hasn't heard anything back from Selective Service, but then [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Rene Believe he can do that online by using his SSN SignatureI'm not an attorney. This disclaimer is valid in NYS! > Believe he can do that online by using his SSN Noorah101, it takes up to 30 days to hear something from them. Yes, he can check if he is registered online here > https://www4.sss.gov/regver/verification1.asp Mostly in three weeks your friend will receive a Selective Service card and that will be his proof. :) > Noorah101, > it takes up to 30 days to hear something from them. Yes, he can check > if he is registered online here > > https://www4.sss.gov/regver/verification1.asp Mostly in three weeks > your friend will receive a Selective Service card and that will be his > proof. :) OK, cool. Thanks business+ and Rete. :) Rene > OK, cool. Thanks business+ and Rete. :) > > Rene Gee, I should get some Karma for starting this thread haha! *Pats himself on the back* > Gee, I should get some Karma for starting this thread haha! > *Pats himself on the back* It is done, my little karma whore ;) > Gee, I should get some Karma for starting this thread haha! > *Pats himself on the back* Some FYI for all... I emailed the Selective Service for more information pertaining to my situation and I got a reply back stating the following: "If there is a lapse of 30 days between the time your J-1 VISA status expires and when you turn 26 years old and you are still residing in the United States, you are required to register with Selective Service System. It will be to your advantage to register with Selective Service if this will be your case. A man must be registered to stay eligible for student loans and grants for college, most Federal employment, all background security clearances, many state jobs, job training under the Workforce Investment Act, and citizenship (if he is not yet a U.S. citizen)." Am I reading this correct.... I will turn 26 one week after my J-1 expires, (but will be married before then anyway), therefore I do not need to register with the selective service, as the 30 days wouldn't have elapsed as mentioned above, correct? > Some FYI for all... > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > selective service, as the 30 days wouldn't have elapsed as mentioned > above, correct? That's the way it looks to me. Rene > Gee, I should get some Karma for starting this thread haha! > *Pats himself on the back* You got it, dude! :D Rene > A friend of mine went ahead and sent in the registration form while he > was 25 and had Pending AOS status, just to make sure. He figured if [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Rene They don't make it easy do they unless you have the greencard...I sent in the stuff by paper a while ago, but got nothing back, nor anything saying i'm registered online...would be a pain to have to bother go through it again, and I still don't have my greencard *l* > Interesting! So basically, they take the date that you get your PR > status approved, and that is when you are required to reisgter for the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Thx for the input Rete No, that is not what I said. I used the age and date only to show that he was legally within the US and legally required to register and did not and therefore was not eligible to naturalize because he did not demonstrate good moral character. You must register if you are pending. SignatureI'm not an attorney. This disclaimer is valid in NYS! > No, that is not what I said. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > You must register if you are pending. OK I got ya! ;) > http://www.sss.gov/FSwho.htm > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > ~Sean~ Hi: I think you are in a no-harm no foul situaiton. However, go to www.sss.gov and register on-line. SignatureCertified Specialist Immigration & Nat. Law Cal. Bar Board of Legal Specialization > Hi: > > I think you are in a no-harm no foul situaiton. However, go to > www.sss.gov and register on-line. That's the problem, you can't until your an LPR, pending isn't in their system and your told you can't apply, and if you still want to, you can print off a form and do it by mail. > Hi: > > I think you are in a no-harm no foul situaiton. However, go to > www.sss.gov and register on-line. Hey Mr F. From the information that I was given in response to an email of mine to the Selective Service, It's seems that I will just miss the requirement on having to register due to the fact that my 26th birthday will fall within a 30 day period of my visa status expiring. Hope that makes sense? :) "If there is a lapse of 30 days between the time your J-1 VISA status expires and when you turn 26 years old and you are still residing in the United States, you are required to register with Selective Service System...." |
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