Should she mention this problem at the Citizenship test interview or not?

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jimsocal - 26 Oct 2005 20:35 GMT

Okay... My wife's original temp. green card was fine. But when they
sent her permanent green card, it had No Name Given instead of her
first name. Obviously they had verified this information numerous
times but when we went to fix it on the card, they said they needed
her father's birth certificate because there was a descrepancy.

The discrepancy was that on our ORIGINAL (temp) green card application
an attorney filled it out and put her father's name as it is on my
wife's birth certificate (his real first name). But when I filled out
the removal of condtions form, I put her father's name as I knew it to
be (his middle name, that he goes by; I was not even aware of his real
first name). To further complicate matters, the birth certificate does
not even show his middle name, the one he goes by, only his real first
name. So we have no record of the name he goes by, at all.

Okay. So we did not get around to going back to fix this through USCIS
because they then told us we would need to fill out a whole new
removal of green card app. and pay another fee and start the whole
process over. Meanwhile her Citizenship class teacher told her that it
was not worth going through all that, we should just apply for
citizenship and then the green card would not matter.

So now it is time for her citizenship test appointment and we are
wondering: should she bring up the fact that there is a discrepancy re
her dad's first name, and that's why her perm. green card says "No
Name Given" or should we just say "It just came that way" and leave it
at that, only providing them with info re her father's name if pushed.

IF we could fix this whole thing at the time of the appointment then I
would be all for it. But IF they are going to require more hoops for
us to jump through, more fees, more time, more appointments, then I am
leaning towards just not mentioning any of it and see if she gets her
citizenship and be done with it.

Opinions, info, or constructive comments are welcome.

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Rete - 26 Oct 2005 22:45 GMT

> Okay... My wife's original temp. green card was fine. But when they
> sent her permanent green card, it had No Name Given instead of her
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> Opinions, info, or constructive comments are welcome.

The green card is inaccurate. Of course she should bring it up at
the time of the N-400 interview and test. Her green card will have
to be returned tot he CIS if she passes the interview and test.
Better she explains the incorrect information now than the day of the
oath ceremony.

I don't understand:

1. Why you would think it does not matter and would think that she
should not correct the inaccuracy of the document;

2. Why you completed the form for her and/or did not go over it with
her so that the inaccurate information on her father could have been
discovered;

3. Why you thought that your wife had to pay a fee for a new green card
when the mistake was ultimately CIS' fault; and

4. Why you are asking the same question a second time.

Rete

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jimsocal - 29 Oct 2005 20:11 GMT

>The green card is inaccurate. Of course she should bring it up at
>the time of the N-400 interview and test. Her green card will have
>to be returned tot he CIS if she passes the interview and test.
>Better she explains the incorrect information now than the day of the
>oath ceremony.

Why would she have to explain it on the day of the oath ceremony? By
that time, isn't everything all set already?

>I don't understand:
>
>1. Why you would think it does not matter and would think that she
> should not correct the inaccuracy of the document;

Obviously the date and name will have to be corrected. The question
was, does the dad's b.c. have to be brought up, as that is not obvious
from the card, and if they don't know about it, it may be easier to
just slide over that. Her name they now obviously have corrected even
though the green card says "no name given". And the date I've already
reported wrong via certified mail.

In fact the woman teaching the citizenship class, who's been doing
this stuff for many years and wrote a book on it, told us not to bring
up the father's name thing. I am only asking here, to see if others
agree.

>2. Why you completed the form for her and/or did not go over it with
> her so that the inaccurate information on her father could have been
> discovered;

Because I thought it was set in stone that his name was what I put. I
had never heard different. Even my wife did not know that it was the
other way (middle name) on her b.c.. The father's name I put is the
one we both knew to be his name. It was the original attorney several
years ago who put the other name from the b.c. and shd did not notice
that and at that time I knew no better.

>3. Why you thought that your wife had to pay a fee for a new green card
> when the mistake was ultimately CIS' fault; and

Because that is exactly what CIS told us when we made an appointment,
went down there with b.c. in hand to fix the problem! They said
"Sorry, we can't fix this here today. You'll have to re-apply and pay
a new fee." I argued the point that it was THEIR mistake and that we
brought the birth certificate to fix it as we were TOLD TO DO BY THEM,
last time. But they held that we had to re-apply. An expert told us to
forget trying to fix it and just go for citizenship. In fact, her
green card "no name given" worked fine for entering and leaving the
country in any case, so we figured it could not be that much of a
problem.

>4. Why you are asking the same question a second time.

I don't recall asking this before. And why are you so antagonistic?
Thanks for the feedback.

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Immigration Forum / USA Marriage Base / October 2005

Should she mention this problem at the Citizenship test interview or not?