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nofear - 30 Jan 2006 16:37 GMT
I helping one acwaitence of mine whose I-485 got denied

Here is the whole story
He applied for adjustment of status in October 99 and was interviewed
in August 2001
The DOA officer told him that his application is going to be approved
shortly after fingerprint.
In the meantime he and his wife bought a home and moved. Somehow they
misspelled the new address on AR-11 form. So the fingerprinting
appointment letter never got to them.

I filed the G-638 (Privacy Act request) in March last year for him and
he received the paperwork last week. The letter says that his I-485 is
being denied due to a failure to appear for fingerprinting.
The denial date is January 14 2005

Now because he never received the letter for the fingerprinting
appointment or the letter of denial he could not do act.
Also he lost his opportunity to appeal the case. (30 days)

My question is: Can he apply for motion to reopen the case? Or motion
to reconsider?

To file a new I-485 based on the same petition would take another 5 or
more years.
ramNagab - 30 Jan 2006 17:14 GMT
> I helping one acwaitence of mine whose I-485 got denied
>
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> To file a new I-485 based on the same petition would take another 5 or
> more years.

consult with a lawyer . this forums for basic questions
grouchy - 30 Jan 2006 17:51 GMT
> I helping one acwaitence of mine whose I-485 got denied
>
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> To file a new I-485 based on the same petition would take another 5 or
> more years.

This happened to us and we successfully re-opened.  See my posts from
August 2005
nofear - 31 Jan 2006 04:48 GMT
so you reopened even if you found out more then 90 days after the
denial ?
ian-mstm - 31 Jan 2006 13:02 GMT
> so you reopened even if you found out more then 90 days after the
> denial ?

What really surprises me, is that you are wasting both your time and his
by asking these questions. Time is of the essence here... don't talk
about it; don't question it... DO IT! Tell your friend to get a lawyer
and see if it *can* be opened... this is not something you or he should
do by yourself. Why throw your hands up in the air in despair prior to
even trying?

And, while I'm thinking about it... why doesn't he just reapply? As far
as I know, there's nothing that says he can't.

Ian
nofear - 31 Jan 2006 16:01 GMT
Well he had a lawyer that closed his business and some other law firm
took over the case but he did not hear from them about the denial.

If it comes to reapplying he has to start all over, this would be the
last option and so is the lawyer. My case was a disaster and if not
this group I would not be in US right now.
I had a lawyer and in the end I had to take care of everything my self.

I could not find a form for filing a motion to reopen only the appeal
form
I did Google search but no luck
Which form needs to be filled for reopening?
grouchy - 31 Jan 2006 16:11 GMT
> Well he had a lawyer that closed his business and some other law firm
> took over the case but he did not hear from them about the denial.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> I did Google search but no luck
> Which form needs to be filled for reopening?

There is no form, you do a letter and affidavit up yourself.  There used
to be a form, but no more.  They recently raised the fee from $110 to (I
think) $385.  Also, you must send to Chicago Lockbox (I found this out
the hard way).

As to what should be in the letter/affidavit, it is in the applicable
sections of the Code of Federal Regulation (CFR).  Again, see my
previous posts.

Grouchy
grouchy - 31 Jan 2006 16:31 GMT
> Well he had a lawyer that closed his business and some other law firm
> took over the case but he did not hear from them about the denial.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> I did Google search but no luck
> Which form needs to be filled for reopening?

Since I got so much help in my own reopen [thanks esp Rete and Mr F], I
decided to try to find the link for you to the CFR section (8 CFR
103.5), and I checked, the fee is now $385.  Ignore what they say about
the using the form, because it used to exist and does not anymore:

http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-
idx?c=ecfr&sid=9c0c5b3eae3ad1785ed881dd1298f7e2&rgn=div8&view=text&node-
=8:1.0.1.2.6.0.1.5&idno=8

You will call it a motion to reopen, not a motion to reconsider.  The
motion can be in letter form.  As you will see from the CFR section, the
requirements for the reopen letter are:(A) In writing and signed by the
affected party or the attorney or representative of record, if any; (B)
accompanied by the fee, (C) Accompanied by a statement about whether or
not the validity of the unfavorable decision has been or is the subject
of any judicial proceeding and, if so, the court, nature, date, and
status or result of the proceeding; [i.e., that is has not been the
subject of any judicial proceeding in your case] (D) Addressed to the
official having jurisdiction; [the one who signed the denial letter] and
(E) Submitted to the office maintaining the record upon which the
unfavorable decision was made for forwarding to the official having
jurisdiction. [BUT I caution you again, mail to Chicago Lockbox and once
they cash the check, they will forward it to the office.  Address it to
the office who issued the decision, c/o Chicago Lockbox. at the Chicago
Lockbox address]

Along with your letter outlining why your case should be reopen, submit
a notarized affidavit describing what happened.  To be successful, you
must prove that there are new facts to be provided in the reopened
proceeding and that claim must be supported by affidavits or other
documentary evidence. A motion to reopen an application or petition
denied due to abandonment must be filed with evidence that the decision
was in error because:

 (i) The requested evidence was not material to the issue of
     eligibility;

(ii) The required initial evidence was submitted with the application
     or petition, or the request for initial evidence or additional
     information or appearance was complied with during the allotted
     period; or

(iii) The request for additional information or appearance was sent to
     an address other than that on the application, petition, or notice
     of representation, or that the applicant or petitioner advised the
     Service, in writing, of a change of address or change of
     representation subsequent to filing and before the Service's
     request was sent, and the request did not go to the new address.

Good luck.
grouchy - 31 Jan 2006 14:46 GMT
> so you reopened even if you found out more then 90 days after the
> denial ?

no, i meant it was similar because we were denied for not showing up for
fingerprinting (which wasn't true).  But if you look in the applicable
Code of Federal Regulations section, you will see that there is
discretion in the adjudicating officer to accept the motion even after
the thirty days, if you have a good reason.

and Ian is right, if you are going to do this, get moving.

But if you are responsible by misspelling address on the AR-11, they may
well deny it.  Anyway, the AR-11 is not the way to change address, just
a required step.  You also have to send letters to both NBC and your
local office.

You could always do a motion to reopen and re-file as well in case the
MTR is not granted.
Rete - 31 Jan 2006 15:38 GMT
> no, i meant it was similar because we were denied for not showing up
> for fingerprinting (which wasn't true).  But if you look in the
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> You could always do a motion to reopen and re-file as well in case the
> MTR is not granted.

Don't think that the NBC has a phone number you can call but you are
required to call the 1-800 misinformation to inform them of the change
of address.

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