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ControlFreak - 31 Jan 2006 04:27 GMT
I just received notification that my AOS was denied, due to abandonment.
Apparently they didn't receive the additional evidence I was supposed to
send in. That was back in August, and it seems they have taken this long
to actually bother to tell me.
I can submit a motion to reopen my case, if I file it within 30 days.
How long does this process take? Is there a timeframe, or does it just
depend on when and if they bother to get around to looking at it?
We are about to submit our taxes, and, as I don't have a social security
number, the return would be significantly less, so I'd like to know if
it is feasible to wait for USCIS to make a decision, or whether it will
take too long.
Any advice would be appreciated.
shepslady - 31 Jan 2006 11:35 GMT
> I just received notification that my AOS was denied, due to
> abandonment. Apparently they didn't receive the additional evidence I
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> whether it will take too long.
> Any advice would be appreciated.

Just because you dont have a ssn doesnt mean you cant file taxes with
your partner. Go to the IRS website & apply for a temporary tax number.
This number can be used until you get your ssn.
As for you filing a motion to reopen your case I have no idea how long
that process will take but it would definately be worth doing rather
than risk starting the entire process again. Time wise it has to be
shorter than doing it all over from the begining. I know its a
frustrating thing to be going through but hang in there, things have to
start going your way sooner or later.
Goodluck on whatever you decide.

Cheers
Shepslady

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ControlFreak - 31 Jan 2006 13:40 GMT
> Just because you dont have a ssn doesnt mean you cant file taxes with
> your partner. Go to the IRS website & apply for a temporary tax
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> Cheers
> Shepslady

Yes, but unfortunately, if I use a temporary tax number, we will not get
all the taxes owed to us.
For some reason, if a member of the household doesn't hold a valid SSN,
then we cannot claim my husband's child.
I'm just wondering if it's worth waiting. I think the difference would
be about $2,000.
So, if somebody could give me some sort of idea of how much longer this
will take, that would be great!

CF
ControlFreak - 31 Jan 2006 14:56 GMT
> Yes, but unfortunately, if I use a temporary tax number, we will not
> get all the taxes owed to us.
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>
> CF

Sorry for the double post!
I have a question, regarding the form I-290B.
At the very top of the form, It has a section which says "Fee Stamp". Is
this where I put the ammount that I will be sending, or is this for
their use?
Also where it say "In the matter of" I'm assuming I need to put the
application that the appeal is pertaining to (I-485).

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Noorah101 - 31 Jan 2006 15:17 GMT
> Sorry for the double post!
> I have a question, regarding the form I-290B.
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>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Hi CF,

Do a search for posts by "grouchy".  They just went through the process
of doing a motion to reopen.

Best Wishes,
Rene
Rete - 31 Jan 2006 15:36 GMT
> Yes, but unfortunately, if I use a temporary tax number, we will not
> get all the taxes owed to us.
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>
> CF

Well that seems strange.  If you can apply for your husband to get an
ITIN why can't you also apply for your step-daughter?  Either way you
the option of filing an amended return later on.

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grouchy - 31 Jan 2006 15:31 GMT
> I just received notification that my AOS was denied, due to
> abandonment. Apparently they didn't receive the additional evidence I
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> whether it will take too long.
> Any advice would be appreciated.

We were successfull in our MTR, took 7.5 weeks.  See my August 1 through
September posts.
virtus2021 - 31 Jan 2006 17:07 GMT
7.5 weeks, thats great.  ours is more like 7.5 months and that was with
congressional help, otherwise it would have been over a year from what
they tell us.  i guess that's new york for you.
grouchy - 31 Jan 2006 17:53 GMT
> 7.5 weeks, thats great.  ours is more like 7.5 months and that was
>   with
>   congressional help, otherwise it would have been over a year from
>   what
>   they tell us.  i guess that's new york for you.

we were in ny as well.  infoline person told me that it would take 8-12
months, which upset me hugely (and I was 8 months pregnant at the time
to boot).  but instead it took less than 2 months.  i also had our
congressman's office contacting nbc about it.
ControlFreak - 31 Jan 2006 17:59 GMT
> we were in ny as well.  infoline person told me that it would take 8-
> 12 months, which upset me hugely (and I was 8 months pregnant at the
> time to boot).  but instead it took less than 2 months.  i also had
> our congressman's office contacting nbc about it.

Thank you so much for the quick responses here!
Grouchy - I've just read your post in the thread that Rene directed
me to and I'm confused (imagine that!).
You mention having something notarised. What is this?
Sorry, I'm highly stressed and my brain doesn't seem to be
functioning properly.

CF
grouchy - 31 Jan 2006 18:09 GMT
> Thank you so much for the quick responses here!
> Grouchy - I've just read your post in the thread that Rene directed me
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>
> CF

The affidavit has to be notarised, that is to say, signed in front of a
notary public, who puts their seal on it.  When you swear an affidavit
in front of a notary, it means you are swearing to its truth on penalty
of perjury.  A notary can be a lawyer, but most banks have them as well,
or offices that will do the notarization for five or ten bucks.  Just
look in the yellow pages under notary public i imagine.  It's not hard
to find one--don't stress out over that.

Glad Rene cleared it up--I didn't quite clue in there were 2 MTR
posts going on at the same time or I would have posted the answers to
both threads.
ControlFreak - 31 Jan 2006 18:34 GMT
> The affidavit has to be notarised, that is to say, signed in front of
> a notary public, who puts their seal on it.  When you swear an
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> going on at the same time or I would have posted the answers to both
> threads.

Thanks again!
So, I need to write a seperate letter stating why my case should be re-
opened, and have that notorized? Or should I have the I-290B notorized?

Again, apologies for failing to grasp what is probably something
very simple!

CF
grouchy - 31 Jan 2006 18:46 GMT
> Thanks again!
> So, I need to write a seperate letter stating why my case should be
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>
> CF

There is no form I-290B for motions to reopen.  Apparently, there used
to be, but it does not exist anymore.

So what you do is:

1)  A letter which serves as your motion to reopen (since there is no
form).  Say exactly what happened to you in the letter (explain in
detail), and that this case is not the subject of any judicial
proceeding.  Address the letter to the official who signed the denial
letter, at the office who made the denial decision c/o the Chicago
Lockbox, at the Chicago Lockbox office address.  Put your name on the
bottom and sign it.

2)  An affidavit saying, I , Madame X, do solemnly swear and affirm as
   follows....[give your story].  Sign in front of a notary public and
   they will put their seal on it.

3)  Include Fee of $385 payable to Department of Homeland Security.

If you are really having trouble let me know and I will post or PM you
the papers we used, with names and personal details taken out.

Grouchy
ControlFreak - 31 Jan 2006 18:54 GMT
> There is no form I-290B for motions to reopen.  Apparently, there used
> to be, but it does not exist anymore.
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>
> Grouchy

Ok, thanks. :)
I actually downloaded the I-290B last night, but I guess I just won't
use it.
I'm also wondering whether I should send it to the Chicago Lockbox, as I
applied for AOS using the Dallas Office Rapid Adjustment program.
I know it's no good calling the mis-information line because none of
them there have even heard if DORA.
Maybe I should make an infopass appointment and take it in myself?

CF
grouchy - 31 Jan 2006 19:05 GMT
> Ok, thanks. :)
> I actually downloaded the I-290B last night, but I guess I just won't
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>
> CF

The I-290B is for appeals, not MTR's.

We were told by the Misinfoline to send it to NBC (Missouri) who does
the initial processing.  While on the infopass appointment NYC told us
to send a 'letter' to NBC, rocket scientists that they are.

Well lo and behold about 9 days after sending off our MTR we get it BACK
from NBC with a coversheet saying to send it to Chicago Lockbox.
Fedexed it to Chicago and got in just under the 30 day wire, which
nearly gave me a heart attack (actually, since I was 8 months pregnant
at the time, one could say 2 heart attacks).  I gather that anything
that has a fee attached to it goes through Chicago Lockbox 1st.  They
take your money, issue NOA, then they send it on to whoever made the
decision (Dallas in your case), since they are the ones who have to
adjudicate the MTR.  But if you feel like making infopass appointment,
go ahead.  Just don't think you can be certain that you will be told the
right thing.  If I were you, I would send it to "Dallas Office, c/o
Chicago Lockbox" to the Chicago address.

After sending to Lockbox, we got NOA and check cashed w/i 8 days or so.

Grouchy
ControlFreak - 31 Jan 2006 19:14 GMT
> The I-290B is for appeals, not MTR's.
>
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>
> Grouchy

Thank you so much for your help and patience!
I will do that. :)

CF
snowbunny - 31 Jan 2006 18:03 GMT
> we were in ny as well.  infoline person told me that it would take 8-
> 12 months, which upset me hugely (and I was 8 months pregnant at the
> time to boot).  but instead it took less than 2 months.  i also had
> our congressman's office contacting nbc about it.

I've wondered about this.  Back in the day I was able to get my
congressman to intervene and get my CANADIAN visa (believe it or
not) but figured that USCIS would be deaf to the ears of the
legislative branch.

(I am a US citizen.)

Hmmm, I'll have to look up the paper trail from an I-130 filed at an
overseas post (consulate) and whether or not it is partially
processed here.
meauxna - 31 Jan 2006 20:00 GMT
> I've wondered about this.  Back in the day I was able to get my
> congressman to intervene and get my CANADIAN visa (believe it or
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> overseas post (consulate) and whether or not it is partially
> processed here.

Hunh? The I-130 submitted to a qualifying overseas post is adjudicated
by the CO under special permission of USCIS (see 9 FAM PART IV
Appendix N).

What kind of partial processing in the US are you talking about?
virtus2021 - 31 Jan 2006 22:31 GMT
Sorry to go off on a tangent here.  My appointment is in June in Garden
City after having sent the MTR in September 2005. I have a job offer
that is going to disappear in about 4 weeks, because I am technically
out of status and I cant accept it.  Its unbelievable  that we have to
go the process of having an appointment. We sent them the paper (2004
tax returnt) they said they didnt recieve (read "lost").  At any rate,
we have hired an attorney to work on the case and try and get the date
moved to an earlier date.  We've got a congressman involved and a
senator from another state.  Is there anything else we can do to get an
earlier meeting?  Is an appointment really necessary if they have all
the documentation which we resent?
thanks!!!
ControlFreak - 31 Jan 2006 17:39 GMT
> We were successfull in our MTR, took 7.5 weeks.  See my August 1
> through September posts.

Thanks, that gives me a more clear idea, though I realise all cases are
different.
Which form did you use? Was it the I-290B? I want to make sure I have
the right form before I make a mess of this. The fee is $385.

And thanks to everyone for the support. I really appreciate it. :)

CF
Noorah101 - 31 Jan 2006 17:41 GMT
> Thanks, that gives me a more clear idea, though I realise all cases
> are different.
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>
> CF

Hi CF,

grouchy posted this:
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=351771  which answers
your question about the form and fee.

Rene
HILLCREST - 31 Jan 2006 19:09 GMT
> > Thanks, that gives me a more clear idea, though I realise all cases
> > are different.
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>
> --

I'm new here and can't find how to post a thread unless I respond to
someone elses - sorry if I am treading on toes - but would someone
PLEASE tell me how I can post my own thread?  I'm fairly new to
computers but have been looking this site over for an hour now with no
luck.  I really need help - I have a charity lawyer (we are broke) who
hasn't heard about self-sponsorship!!  Where can I find information
about this to tell her? THANKS
grouchy - 31 Jan 2006 20:42 GMT
> > > Thanks, that gives me a more clear idea, though I realise all
> > > cases
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