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viara.stankova@gmail.com - 28 May 2006 21:16 GMT
Hello everyone! I have been redeang posts in this group and found them
very informtive since I am not an American citizen. I do, however, hope
to go throught the process sucessfully and obtain citizenship sometime
in the near future. My husband and I recenty married (yey!) and have
not filed any paperwork yet. Honestly, we do not have the money right
now to spend on all the necessary fees. Also, I am already anxious
about the AOS interview. My question is this - is it ok if we wait a
little before we file our papers? There are a coupd of issues I need to
make sure I ahve addressed before we file.
1) I think we need an affidavid of support. We are both in school - my
parents are supporting me somewhat and I have the rest on credit cards
for now and my husband is doing the student loan deal and is not
working. So, we are tight on money.
2) We do not have much paperwork to show that we have lived together -
We need to start saving things fro a while and have those for the AOS
interview. We have a joint checking accouint but we have decided to
keep our finances separatelu because I have debt on my credit cards and
he has his student loans, so until we start working and pay the school
off - we've decided to have that separate. What sgould we collect for
the interview besides pictures of us with friends and stuff
3)Also, I have a ticket to go home for a couple of weekes this summer -
is it ok? If we do not file and my F1 visa is still good, can I go? My
visa is valid until Dec 2007 and I still havea  year to go in school.

        Your help will be much appreciated,

Thank you
Noorah101 - 28 May 2006 22:44 GMT
> Hello everyone! I have been redeang posts in this group and found them
> very informtive since I am not an American citizen. I do, however,
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>
> Thank you

Yes, you can file anytime after you are married.  Is your husband a USC?
He will need to fill in the I-864, and you are right, if he doesn't
qualify financially, you'll need a joint sponsor.  Someone who is a UCS
or PR, living in the USA.

You have plenty of time to collect your evidence.  Depending on where
you live, the AOS interview can come anywhere between a few months to a
year or more after you file.  You don't have to comingle your finances,
many people don't.  Maybe open one joint banking account.  Other items
can be joint utility bills, car insurance, health insurance, memberships
to clubs or gyms, mail address to both of you at your address, even junk
mail, joint name on apartment lease, etc.

As far as I know, if you're student status is still valid, and you are
allowed to travel on that, I don't see any problem here.

Best Wishes,
Rene
Noorah101 - 28 May 2006 22:59 GMT
> Yes, you can file anytime after you are married.  Is your husband a
> USC?  He will need to fill in the I-864, and you are right, if he
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> Best Wishes,
> Rene

I just thought I'd point out that it seems you are anxious for US
citizenship "in the near future".  Be aware that the process is a bit
lengthy...and by delaying filing for AOS, you are delaying the date you
can apply for citizenship as well.  First you must file AOS, obtain your
green card (which as I said could take up to a year or more), then you
can apply for citizenship 3 years after you receive your green card, if
you are still married to the same USC husband.  Then it could take up to
a year until you get an oath ceremony.  Rough example:  you apply for
AOS in 2006, become a PR in 2007, apply for citizenship in 2010, and get
your oath ceremony in 2011.  Not exactly in the "near future". :)

Rene
hcj1440 - 29 May 2006 00:35 GMT
> Hello everyone! I have been redeang posts in this group and found them
> very informtive since I am not an American citizen. I do, however,
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>
> Thank you

I would check this out with an attorney before leaving the US.  You are
probably fine to file for AOS at this point, but if you left the US
without filing, you would be re-entering on a non-immigrant visa even
though you are now married to a USC and might be considered an
intending immigrant.  I would just check that out before you left the
country, in case it impacts your ability to return or your ability to
adjust status later on.
Elvira - 29 May 2006 00:42 GMT
> I would check this out with an attorney before leaving the US.  You
> are probably fine to file for AOS at this point, but if you left the
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> country, in case it impacts your ability to return or your ability to
> adjust status later on.

But if she files before travelling, she would have to apply for Advance
Parole, which currently seems to take at least 3 months to get -
sometimes even longer... Plus it's another fee (not sure how much -
check the USCIS site for current fees).
hcj1440 - 29 May 2006 00:53 GMT
> But if she files before travelling, she would have to apply for
> Advance Parole, which currently seems to take at least 3 months to get
> - sometimes even longer... Plus it's another fee (not sure how much -
> check the USCIS site for current fees).

The answer might be that she should not leave the US until she has filed
for AOS and has AP in hand.  Something for her to check out IMO, before
exiting the US for any reason.
Matthew Udall - 29 May 2006 01:41 GMT
> I would check this out with an attorney before leaving the US.  You
> are probably fine to file for AOS at this point, but if you left the
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> country, in case it impacts your ability to return or your ability to
> adjust status later on.

"Might"?

There is a presumption in the law that comes into play here.

On top of the presumption, add the US spouse and the fact she's here now
and wants to file for AOS into the equation.
SoCal1980@gmail.com - 29 May 2006 02:55 GMT
well, I hae an year open ticket becasue you cannot purchase a one way
ticket to the US if you are not a green card holder or a us citizen.
therefore, I have always had a 1 year open ticket. I do not have the
time nor the money to file now and wait for the AP documents - I hope
this is ok that I am going home. I dont think I can consulta lawyer at
this point - I think it will cost ven to ask a simple question. If
anyone has a similar experience please let me know if it is safe to go.
Noorah101 - 29 May 2006 03:13 GMT
> well, I hae an year open ticket becasue you cannot purchase a
> one way
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> anyone has a similar experience please let me know if it is
> safe to go.

I hope so, too, for your sake!  If I were you, I would definitely
research it and find out for sure!  Ask your foreign student advisor at
school, ask a free immigration service like Catholic Charities, take out
a loan or borrow $100 and pay an attorney a 1-time consultation....you
would hate to be separated from your husband because you didn't know
whether it was safe to travel or not.

Rene
hcj1440 - 29 May 2006 03:51 GMT
> well, I hae an year open ticket becasue you cannot purchase a
> one way
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> anyone has a similar experience please let me know if it is
> safe to go.

If you do not consult an attorney, I would err on the side of not
leaving the US again until you have filed for AOS and have your AP in
your hands.
ian-mstm - 29 May 2006 13:19 GMT
> well, I hae an year open ticket becasue you cannot purchase a
> one way
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> anyone has a similar experience please let me know if it is
> safe to go.

There is absolutely no problem whatsoever with you going home... after
all, you're not a prisoner here. However, you may not be allowed back
into the US. It's entirely your choice, so good luck to you.

Ian
Matthew Udall - 29 May 2006 22:36 GMT
> well, I hae an year open ticket becasue you cannot purchase a
> one way
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> anyone has a similar experience please let me know if it is
> safe to go.

Just because you assume the "question" is simple, don't assume the
"answer" will be.

Good luck.
Folinskyinla - 29 May 2006 23:40 GMT
> well, I hae an year open ticket becasue you cannot purchase a
> one way
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> anyone has a similar experience please let me know if it is
> safe to go.

Hi:

From you intial description, your situation is NOT "simple."  I have
often seen clients ask what they consider a "simple question" and it is
what I call "deceptively simple" -- one that simply inspires more
questions and then the answers will be complicated.

There ARE sources of competent immigration advice out there that is
either free or extremely low cost.  We've listed some of them.  I
recommend you look into it.

Your unused ticket may be incredibly expensive if you use it.

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Matthew Udall - 29 May 2006 23:51 GMT
> Hi:
>
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>
> Your unused ticket may be incredibly expensive if you use it.

And often "non-clients" will call or write seeking a "quick" answer to
what they consider to be a simple question. What I assume they sometimes
fail to realize is that anybody willing to give an answer will first
have to spend a bit of time getting the background story and situation
and look for factors that might influence the analysis (that might not
be apparent to the caller) "before" giving an answer (a common flaw I
see in some who give answers on news groups).

If its an attorney (giving the answer), couple that with the potential
liability when giving answers (whether or not the attorney is paid to do
so), the danger of letting someone pressure the attorney into giving a
"quick" answer (without asking the proper questions first), and the
requirement that one keep records of this interaction with the
consultation "client". The time required, the liability exposure and
record keeping requirements might be why some attorneys actually charge
a fee to perform this service.
SoCal1980@gmail.com - 29 May 2006 02:55 GMT
well, I hae an year open ticket becasue you cannot purchase a one way
ticket to the US if you are not a green card holder or a us citizen.
therefore, I have always had a 1 year open ticket. I do not have the
time nor the money to file now and wait for the AP documents - I hope
this is ok that I am going home. I dont think I can consulta lawyer at
this point - I think it will cost ven to ask a simple question. If
anyone has a similar experience please let me know if it is safe to go.
hcj1440 - 29 May 2006 03:01 GMT
> "Might"?
>
> There is a presumption in the law that comes into play here.
>
> On top of the presumption, add the US spouse and the fact she's here
> now and wants to file for AOS into the equation.

OK, fine.  "Will" until proven otherwise :)
Folinskyinla - 29 May 2006 02:21 GMT
> Hello everyone! I have been redeang posts in this group and found them
> very informtive since I am not an American citizen. I do, however,
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>
> Thank you

Hi:

Contact your foreign student advisor on campus and see if she has a
referral for you to a low-cost immigration attorney, or perhaps
"Travelers Aid", Catholic Charities, or some other no cost/low cost
immigration advisors.  Do note that the FSA will most likely NOT be able
to advise you directly -- but they tend to know the sources.

Your case DOES present "issues" but whether they are solvable or not
depends upon a lot of facts.

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