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More complex I-864 question

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palgia - 31 Aug 2006 21:36 GMT
Hello everyone,

I am getting ready to prepare the I-864 for my AOS (I-130 based) and I
have a slightly more complex question:

I am employed as a university instructor pilot and I get paid on an
hourly basis. My income is highly variable, since it depends of factors
like weather and student loads during the summer months. Furthermore,
one of the perks of the job is being able to take extended "vacations"
during the summer months (if one wants to).
I own 2 real estate properties (one in US, one in Europe), both
generating income that is far greater than my job's salary.

In 2005 my income was $15,000 and my wife's was around $5,000. The
combined income puts up ABOVE the poverty line, so there is no problem.

However, during 2006 I have worked considerably less hours, as well as
taking 4 months off during the summer to complete some graduate school
work. As a result, my current year-to-date income for 2006 is only
around $7,000. This information is printed on my pay stubs and will
therefore be visible to the adjudicating officer. Although I am now
working full-time again, I *KNOW* I will not reach the poverty line
threshold for 2006. Furthermore, my wife's income for 2006 will also be
much lower than for the previous year.

What should I do?

Option A:  File the I-864 using 2005 income (which puts us above
poverty), attach current pay stubs and hope the officer approves the
petition based on the 2005 income (hoping he doesn't read the 2006 YTD
income). Then, at the AOS interview (which will be in 2007, hopefully!)
bring an updated I-864 showing how my real estate property value makes
up for any deficiencies in income.

Option B: Include my real estate properties (even just the one located
in the US) in the original I-864 submission. This would make the most
sense, however in the instructions is clearly says to ONLY include asset
information if you don't reach the poverty line, which in 2005 we did.

What do you recommend?  I am leaning more towards the second option. I
figured since I have to attach all the real estate information on a
separate sheet of paper, I could include a brief explanation as to why I
am including my asset information.

Does anyone suggest a third option?

Thank you in advance for your replies.

John
Noorah101 - 31 Aug 2006 21:55 GMT
> Hello everyone,
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> John

Hi John,

Can you show that the liquid asset value of the property is 5x the
amount you are deficient on income?  For example, if you are short
$10,000 on income, your property will have to show $50,000 value
free and clear.  Meaning if you were to sell it, that's what you'd
get out of it.

If so, I vote for including it...Option 2.

Rene
meauxna - 31 Aug 2006 22:06 GMT
> Hi John,
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> Rene

psst---is it 3X now?
palgia - 31 Aug 2006 22:14 GMT
> psst---is it 3X now?

Yes,  the value of the house covers any kind of deficiency.
I think meauxna is right, its 3X for spouse.

But the problem is that if I do the math step-by-step on the I-864 I
come up with a negative number as far as the deficiency...in other words
I have a "surplus" of income since my 2005 yearly income as reported on
my tax return (and my wife's) is above the poverty line....
ian-mstm - 31 Aug 2006 22:35 GMT
> Yes,  the value of the house covers any kind of deficiency.
> I think meauxna is right, its 3X for spouse.
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> reported on my tax return (and my wife's) is above the poverty
> line....

I've got a pretty strong feeling that this is a good thing.

Ian
Noorah101 - 31 Aug 2006 22:37 GMT
> Yes,  the value of the house covers any kind of deficiency.
> I think meauxna is right, its 3X for spouse.
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> reported on my tax return (and my wife's) is above the poverty
> line....

The 2005 income and your current income are 2 different things.  If your
asset value is enough, include it...whether you show enough income or
not.  Then you're on the safe side.

And thanks for the tip...I didn't realize it changed from 5x to 3x.

Rene
palgia - 31 Aug 2006 23:15 GMT
> The 2005 income and your current income are 2 different things.  If
> your asset value is enough, include it...whether you show enough
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> Rene

Hi Rene, you are completely right. After reviewing the form instructions
it asks for "Current Income", not the 2005 income. I just realized that
now.
The only part of the instructions that links the lasts year income to
the income declared on the affidavit is a phrase under #25 which reads:
"For purposes of this affidavit, the line for gross (total) income on
IRS Forms 1040 and 1040A will be considered when determining income."

I think it is because for MOST people who have a fixed salary, lasts
year income is a pretty good indication of this year's. However, my
income is highly variable and can depend on many factors beyond my
control (such as weather...which you know how that's been in AZ this
summer...).
My current year-to-date earnings are only $7,000 and I know for sure
I will not reach $15,000 by the end of the year. ($15,000 was my
2005 income)

Having said that.... what should I enter for current income?

$15,000 - Which would be unrealistically high for this year, but
substantiated by my 2005 tax returns

OR

my best-shot educated guess at what my total 2006 income might add up to

OR

add up my pay stubs for the past 12 months

OR

any of the above / it doesn't really matter / since I will include
assets is excess of $200k, no matter which of the above I use the
officer will be satisfied that I can support myself?

In case you recommend the last option, which number for annual income do
you recommend anyways?

Thank you again for all your help,

John
Noorah101 - 31 Aug 2006 23:18 GMT
> Hi Rene, you are completely right. After reviewing the form
> instructions it asks for "Current Income", not the 2005 income. I just
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> John

I'd do these two, if it were me.

Rene
palgia - 31 Aug 2006 22:43 GMT
> Yes,  the value of the house covers any kind of deficiency.
> I think meauxna is right, its 3X for spouse.
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> reported on my tax return (and my wife's) is above the poverty
> line....

By the way, I was reading the requirements for using my income (I am the
immigrant) to be counted in the household income.

How exactly do I "Prove that the intending immigrant's current
employment will continue from the same source after he becomes a lawful
permanent resident??"

Would a letter from my current employer stating that I occupy a
"permanent" position and that my job is not temporary suffice? I could
have this statement included in the employment letter that shows I am
currently employed.  Would this be enough or is there more to it?

Thanks again to everyone! I appreciate all your help.

John
Noorah101 - 31 Aug 2006 22:46 GMT
> By the way, I was reading the requirements for using my income (I am
> the immigrant) to be counted in the household income.
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>
> John

Yep, that would be about the only thing you can do to prove such
a thing. :)

Rene
 
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