My fiance in the US & I have been blissfully unaware of the possible
huge waits for visa processing up 'til now, instead thinking that we
could apply when *we* were ready and have everything sorted out fairly
quickly. Basically, I'm in the UK and hoping to get made redundant from
my job, as the redundancy payment would come in useful - we thought
that was the main thing we were waiting for, and then I delved a bit
deeper into the whole visa-application process/wait times yesterday,
and realised it's a lot less straightforward than we'd imagined. Oh
dear.
So, we are (well, he is, obviously) going to get the I-129F form off,
to get things rolling (or crawling, more like, by the sound of it), but
we want to make sure that it's all done properly so that it doesn't end
up coming back due to insufficient evidence/information/whatever. So, a
couple of questions....
"Provide copies of evidence that you and your fiance´(e) have
personally met within the last two years"
What 'evidence' is acceptable? I mean, we've spent plenty of time
together in the last two years, but I'm not sure what would constitute
'proof' of that. We can prove that I was in the US and he was in the UK
(well, I'm sure we could find some boarding cards, and print out flight
booking confirmation things and suchlike) but that surely 'proves'
nothing at all! If we get prints of photos of us together and include
them, is that the kind of thing they're looking for? Not that there's
any proof that the photos were taken within the last two years, as it
never occurred to us to hold up newspapers as proof of the date! But
seriously... is this the sort of thing they're after, because I can't
think of much more evidence of us that we can provide!
"Provide original statements from you and your fiance´(e) whom you
plan to marry within 90 days of his or her admission, and copies of any
evidence you wish to submit to establish your mutual intent"
What does that mean, then? Do we both just write (or type) a statement
saying "I, X, plan to marry Y, within 90 days of my arrival in the US"
and so on? And again, "evidence"? I don't know what evidence we're
supposed to provide - yes, of course we intend to marry as soon as we
can, but how on earth do we prove that? I can't find any information as
to the sort of information they want.
In the FAQs on the Embassy (in London)'s website, it says you can't
apply for the I-129F while your fiance(e) is in the US. Do we have to
take that totally at its word? I only ask because I'm going over for a
visit in a couple of weeks, and will be there staying with my fiance
for about 3 weeks - it would be much easier to get passport photos etc
there, than to mail them to him and wait weeks for them to arrive. But
having realised that we're facing a potentially very lengthy wait, we'd
rather get the form off ASAP once I get there - they're not going to
reject it based on the fact that I was over for a visit for a few weeks
at the time the form was sent off, are they?! Surely....
Another question.... the USCIS website says that the I-129F should be
sent to the service center in Nebraska - but I found the page where
they list processing times etc, and the Nebraska service center had no
mention of I-129F forms on it at all. After a lot of Googling I spotted
a recent post on a messageboard saying that they're now being dealt
with by California.... if this is true, is it just inevitable that
we're going to face god knows how many weeks' extra wait because of
this, or would we be better off just sending it to California?!
Sorry, so many questions! Last one.... could anyone give me even the
roughest of estimates (if anyone has any recent experience, that would
be great) as to how long the whole thing might take, from my fiance
sending the I-129F to the place in Nebraska, to the Embassy in London
issuing my visa? We've just let months & months go by thinking I'd be
over there by next spring, and I'm now realising that might be
incredibly optimistic - the thought that we could have got this whole
process started months ago makes me feel sick!
So... any advice appreciated, and sorry for the huge, long post.
olwagner@netcourrier.com - 28 Sep 2006 15:01 GMT
Regarding the "evidence", I provided both of our transcripts showing
that we attended the same class.
If you ever took the same plane, you can include both of your boarding
passes.
If you ever crossed an international border together and got passport
stamps, provide copies of those, showing that you entered thru the same
port of entry on the same day.
If you don't have anything better, include the photos, and state
somewhere that the photos were taken withing the pas two years.
As fot the statement of intend, here is what ours looked like (signed
by both of us) (you can copy and paste it in a Word Document [Remember
to change the names ;) ]):
"March 19, 2005
To Whom It May Concern:
This is to certify that we (Olivier Wagner and Elisabeth Peltier) plan
to get married within 90 days of Olivier Wagner's admission in the US
under the K1 visa.
Sincerely,"
I don't know about the fact of being in the US, but to be on the safe
side, I would apply before you get to the US. If you cannot get
everything together, just send what you have. If they want more,
they'll send a letter requesting it (RFE: Request For Evidence)
> My fiance in the US & I have been blissfully unaware of the possible
> huge waits for visa processing up 'til now, instead thinking that we
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> So... any advice appreciated, and sorry for the huge, long post.
ac7mpo@gmail.com - 29 Sep 2006 00:58 GMT
The UK is a Visa waiver country and as such they only allow chage for
status for marriage based petitions. If you were in the US as a
tourist and then decided to get married it would be easier as you could
apply for an I-130 and I-485.
You should consult with an attorney in the states.
Depending on which state your fiancee lives is going to affect the time
it takes to get the visa you need.
hope that was helpful
> Regarding the "evidence", I provided both of our transcripts showing
> that we attended the same class.
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> > So... any advice appreciated, and sorry for the huge, long post.
MH - 29 Sep 2006 00:42 GMT
>My fiance in the US & I have been blissfully unaware of the possible
>huge waits for visa processing up 'til now, instead thinking that we
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>and realised it's a lot less straightforward than we'd imagined. Oh
>dear.
Alas, you're not alone. Many people try to find ways around the process,
but in the end, "it takes as long as it takes". Took us almost a year to get
everything together through CSC (California Service Center). That was in
'03-04. I hear things are a bit quicker now. When I say a year, that was
from submission to having visa in hand and travelling to the US and getting
married. 11 months, 1 week, to be a little more precise. But, I hear the UK
consulate can be a bit quicker than the one in Montreal, and if you don't
get an RFE (i.e. USCIS saying "I'm not sure, persuade me some more"), you
might be able to do it in 7-8 months. Maybe faster, but you didn't hear it
from me :-)
>So, we are (well, he is, obviously) going to get the I-129F form off,
>to get things rolling (or crawling, more like, by the sound of it), but
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>"Provide copies of evidence that you and your fiance´(e) have
>personally met within the last two years"
We got an RFE (Request for Evidence) for exactly this reason, even though I
sent in airplane ticket stubs and photos. In the end, we sent affidavits
from both our parents that they had witnessed us together on several
occasions (we visited each other's homes) and I think another plane stub or
two.
Mind you, we submitted October 15, 2003, and they said "evidence of meeting
between October 15, 2003 and October 15, 2005". That was an obvious typo,
and it should have said: 2001/2003.
Anyway, that did the trick.
>"Provide original statements from you and your fiance´(e) whom you
>plan to marry within 90 days of his or her admission, and copies of any
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>can, but how on earth do we prove that? I can't find any information as
>to the sort of information they want.
We just wrote letters that were to the point and included them.
>In the FAQs on the Embassy (in London)'s website, it says you can't
>apply for the I-129F while your fiance(e) is in the US. Do we have to
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>reject it based on the fact that I was over for a visit for a few weeks
>at the time the form was sent off, are they?! Surely....
I don't think that would be a major problem, but don't take my word for it.
However, what is the wording of the embassy? Are you sure they aren't
talking about DCF, where they won't let you go through the embassy if your
fiance(e) who IS the US citizen is in the US? Maybe get some clarification
of this one.
On the other hand, if you ARE planning a visit, this solves the "evidence"
problem nicely. Get a newspaper with a BIG date (or even a recent periodical
like Time or Newsweek that prints the date in large letters) and then zoom
in on your faces and the date..
>Another question.... the USCIS website says that the I-129F should be
>sent to the service center in Nebraska - but I found the page where
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>we're going to face god knows how many weeks' extra wait because of
>this, or would we be better off just sending it to California?!
They may be transferring to California at this point, but I believe you
still need to send things to Nebraska..
MH
Verna - 29 Sep 2006 12:36 GMT
We supplied statments from anyone we met and had kept in contact with and
photos. This seemed to be enough.
A signed statment saying you intent to marry and another from your partner.
The wait isnt that long after you get your forms in (might feel like a life
time though).
Goodluck
>My fiance in the US & I have been blissfully unaware of the possible
>huge waits for visa processing up 'til now, instead thinking that we
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>So... any advice appreciated, and sorry for the huge, long post.
featherB - 29 Sep 2006 21:06 GMT
Thanks so much to everyone who's answered - I've only just found all
your responses (I rather embarrassingly managed to post this query
multiple times, and didn't realise I had any replies til now!)
I'm going to be going to the US in a couple of weeks, and staying for 3
weeks - it's only just occurred to me that we should be able to solve a
lot of the 'proof of having met in person during the last two years'
problem by going out of our way to take photos of us together with the
date prominently visible, and suchlike. I can relax - a bit! At least
once everything's been sent off, we'll know that we've done everything
we can at this stage - and (trying to look on the bright side, here!)
I'll have plenty of time to gather all the documents etc that I need
for the visa interview...
Again... thank you all!
Gitano - 30 Sep 2006 07:07 GMT
You probably have been advised as to this already, but the following two items carry weight
phone bills that show you calling her, and e-mail threads that show that you are in touch.
Good luck.