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American Families United - advocacy for US citizens and their families

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Randall Emery - 26 Oct 2006 01:58 GMT
American Familes United, on the web at www.americanfamiliesunited.org,
has begun the process to become a non-profit under section 501(c)(4) of
the internal revenue code.

Our history: We got started on January 2nd of 2006 as an email list, but
have grown to become, to the best of our knowlede, the sole voice
lobbying for American citizens sponsoring their spouses and children.

Our mission: With a firm conviction that the right to keep a family
together is a fundamental freedom, American Families United works to
ensure that American immigration law protects families.  We represent
American citizens who are sponsoring immediate family members for
immigration.  In order to respect the right to family, this process must
not only encourage family unity but also minimize family separation.
American Families United pursues both legislative and media strategies
to guarantee that the immigration process faced by families is fair,
timely and transparent.

Our current activities: American Families United has approached several
Congressmen and Senators. By raising awareness of the issues facing
American citizens and their families and providing proposed legislative
solutions to them, we have made much progress toward fixing an
immigration system that currently divides American families. We continue
our work to ensure that future legislation recognizes and promotes the
importance of the American family.  Our proposals would:

* Lower barriers to legal immigration for immediate family members of
 US citizens.
* Improve availability of waivers of inadmissibility for spouses of
 US citizens.
* Eliminate administrative delays in completing background checks.
* Enforce accountability within the immigration process so that
 government errors and long delays do not cause further separation.
* Create incentives that encourage the government to process petitions,
 visas and security clearances in a timely manner, and reverse the
 current system that has no consequences for delays, stalling or
 wrongfully denying a lawful benefit.

If you would like to be an active part of making a positive change, we
could really use your help.  We are gearing up now for the next
Congress, and the members we have, the more effective we can be.  Please
take a moment to check us out:

http://www.americanfamiliesunited.org

Thanks,
Randall Emery
co-founder
meauxna - 26 Oct 2006 02:00 GMT
> American Familes United, on the web at www.americanfamiliesunited.org,
> has begun the process to become a non-profit under section 501(c)(4)
[quoted text clipped - 44 lines]
> Randall Emery
> co-founder

FTR, I saw Randall post this elsewhere and invited him to post here.
meauxna
Moderator @ britishexpats.com
Boiler - 26 Oct 2006 03:02 GMT
> American Familes United, on the web at www.americanfamiliesunited.org,
> has begun the process to become a non-profit under section 501(c)(4)
[quoted text clipped - 44 lines]
> Randall Emery
> co-founder

* Lower barriers to legal immigration for immediate family members of
 US citizens.

What barriers for immediate family members? Apart from the usual
processing time.

* Improve availability of waivers of inadmissibility for spouses of
 US citizens.

Not sure what this means, are you talking about Felons and/or those who
are mutiple EWI's?.

* Eliminate administrative delays in completing background checks.

That is very much a minority problem.

* Enforce accountability within the immigration process so that
 government errors and long delays do not cause further separation.

I have a dream...

* Create incentives that encourage the government to process petitions,
 visas and security clearances in a timely manner, and reverse the
 current system that has no consequences for delays, stalling or
 wrongfully denying a lawful benefit.

Well that would be nice, but would require a fundamental redesign of the
whole process, and I have yet to see any proposal that would address
this. Being realistic bearing in mind Congress effectively designs the
process, and complicates it every time it meddles, I find it difficult
to see any chance of anybody wishing to invest the political clout to
change it, no votes in it. Well not in my lifetime.
Randall Emery - 26 Oct 2006 05:13 GMT
> * Lower barriers to legal immigration for immediate family members of
>   US citizens.
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> it difficult to see any chance of anybody wishing to invest the
> political clout to change it, no votes in it. Well not in my lifetime.

There are thousands of citizens separate from their spouses because of
immigration law.  You can read some representative real life cases of
barriers to legal immigration for immediate family members of American
citizens on the front page of our website:
http://www.americanfamiliesunited.org

Specifically, there are over 400,000 people are currently waiting
on name check delays.  The NY Times article published a very good
article describing the problem on Monday:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/23/nyregion/23citizen.html?_r=1&o-
ref=slogin

Our members have met with several Congressmen and Senators personally,
and the proposal to encourage the processing of security checks has
support on both sides of the aisle.  In fact, it has already made its
way through part of the process to becoming law.

What's needed now is the actions of people directly affected.  You know
who you are.  The problem is that the politicians don't.  You need to
reach out to them.  Nobody is going to do it for you -- in fact, if you
don't at least speak up for yourself, nobody else can really even
support you.
Boiler - 26 Oct 2006 07:04 GMT
> There are thousands of citizens separate from their spouses because of
> immigration law.  You can read some representative real life cases of
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> fact, if you don't at least speak up for yourself, nobody else can
> really even support you.

The front page of your web site is confusing but:

Nancy it seems tried to enter on a non immigrant visa with
immigrant intent?

Paola could have obtaind AP and travelled whilst she was waiting to
adjust status.

Frank seems to have been badly advised, a bit of research would have
helped. Difficult to comment further as pertinant information has not
been mentioned.

Why did Ismail not just get a duplicate GC?

In 1998, Myrna went to Mexico to attend her grandmother’s funeral and,
according to authorities, falsely claimed U.S. citizenship to get back
in—a deportable offense. In the process, she was fingerprinted. So how
did she get in?

David's wife was barred for 10 years for working illegally? Not a
barrable offence as far as I am aware. So what's the story?

Joseph was arrested for possesion of marijuana and then complains that
the prosecutor should have advised her to plead guilty to a different
offence to mitigate the impact on her PR status.

You need much better stories. Or at least document them properly.
snowbunny - 26 Oct 2006 07:12 GMT
> The front page of your web site is confusing but:
>
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> You need much better stories. Or at least document them properly.

To be fair not everyone ought to require the services of an immigration
lawyer simply to be reunited with their families.  The immigration law
is horrible, there is too much discretion without review.... if the IRS
started acting as the INS, I mean USCIS, there would be an uproar.
While perhaps the non-USC family member has no "rights" under US law, I
believe very strongly that the USC member(s) do have every right to
respect clear and timely action AND advice from USCIS.
bluesails - 26 Oct 2006 20:07 GMT
> The front page of your web site is confusing but:
>
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> You need much better stories. Or at least document them properly.

Thanks for the feedback.

How is it confusing?  Is it that you didn't know how rampant family
separation can be or the English is not clear or like you mentioned,
would just like to have more details on the stories?

Obviously it is impossible to include all the details in a short
paragraph.  We are trying to link to published articles with more
information, where available.
Boiler - 26 Oct 2006 20:15 GMT
> Thanks for the feedback.
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> paragraph.  We are trying to link to published articles with more
> information, where available.

The stories on the front page are confusing.

Like most on this board I have suffered the US Immigration system. And
having been bit by it once, ended up finding far more about it than I
need to know.

I read the stories and listed my comments, now if I found the stories
confusing so how would Joe Public, or Jane Public, who has very limited
knowledge of how the system works find it?

The drivel you see in the local rags are bad enough on this subject, I
can sort of excuse a reporter with limited interest and knowledge, but I
am assuming you and your colleagues do have an understanding of how the
system works and what actually happened and what went wrong.
Randall Emery - 26 Oct 2006 22:42 GMT
> The stories on the front page are confusing.
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> I am assuming you and your colleagues do have an understanding of how
> the system works and what actually happened and what went wrong.

snowbunny, fatbrit, bluesails -- thank you for the words of
encouragement.  I hope you will take a minute and join as members, if
you haven't done so already, so we can keep in touch with you.  Our
address again is:
http://www.americanfamiliesunited.org

Ian -- I think that to an extent you are right, but do be aware that we
are lobbying on issues that keep US citizens separated from their
families for years, not months or days.  We do all share a strong belief
that we should be able to marry who we want and that immigration law
should not separate families.

Regarding the website, it is targetted to the general public, an
audience for whom it is a big shock to learn that the spouse of a US
citizen is not automatically a US citizen.  We feel that sharing very
detailed immigration information is not especially helpful to this
audience.  But let me be clear: the stories are accurate and true.

Randall
ian-mstm - 29 Oct 2006 14:28 GMT
> snowbunny, fatbrit, bluesails -- thank you for the words of
> encouragement.  I hope you will take a minute and join as members, if
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Randall

As an immigrant to the US, I am well aware that familes are separated
for years... so your response is very much a non sequitur.

I have no problem with people marrying whomever they want, but
immigration law was designed to keep non-USCs out of the US. The fact
that families are separated as a result is unfortunate, but this is akin
to saying that since many people die in hospitals, hospital policy
should be altered so that people don't die there!

The problem, as I indicated before, is that people are ignorant of
immigration law. They assume it's a walk in the park... but it isn't.
Those who are emotionally mature understand that there will be a period
of separation and they will take it in stride. This is not to say that
they like the separation, but but they understand that the long-term
gain overshadows the short-term separation. Those who are emotionally
immature - especially those whose hormones are overshadowing their brain
- are those who are likely to complain the most.

Immigration is not for the faint of heart... it can be very stressful. I
can't begin to count the number of people who have posted here who view
immigration as a burden rather than as an adventure. They complain from
day one! They have no patience, no emotional maturity, and they throw
temper tantrums that would rival those of a two-year old.

I'll be the first to admit that the wheels of immigration grind
slowly... but they do grind. Immigration law was designed to keep non-
USCs out of the US and I, for one, don't want to see that change just
because some foreigner happened to chat up a USC.

Ian
bluesails - 26 Oct 2006 22:46 GMT
> The stories on the front page are confusing.
>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> I am assuming you and your colleagues do have an understanding of how
> the system works and what actually happened and what went wrong.

Yes of course, like you, we know far more than we ever thought we would
need to.  That is the crux of it though, because as you say Jane/Joe
Public knows almost nothing.  So the balance between making the complex
simple and understandable without trying to explain all the details that
starts to glaze over the eyes.

As I said, we have linked to more details where there are published
articles, but the simple complexities of the laws, of the failure of the
system to work as described or pure years worth of details, forces us to
try to distill it down to the basic facts.

So that was our objective, you say it came out confusing for you I am
hoping to get a better understanding of what is confusing about it so
that it can be made more clear.

Did the 2-3 stories that have links to more complete articles help in
those to make them clear?  Having them all linked to more details would
clear it up?  Or other suggestions?

Thanks for your feedback.
Boiler - 26 Oct 2006 23:59 GMT
> Yes of course, like you, we know far more than we ever thought we
> would need to.  That is the crux of it though, because as you say
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> Thanks for your feedback.

I will go and read them again in detail.

I think it would help to be specific on the issues, lets be
realistic the only people interested in this subject have a direct
reason to be so.
ian-mstm - 26 Oct 2006 14:26 GMT
> There are thousands of citizens separate from their spouses because of
> immigration law.  You can read some representative real life cases of
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> fact, if you don't at least speak up for yourself, nobody else can
> really even support you.

I have said this before, but it bears repeating. By and large, US
citizens have no need for immigration services *except* as it relates to
some non-USC. Should the US ignore the immigration process because some
foreigner happens to hook up to a USC?

While I don't disagree with anything you've said, I'll tell you a
simple truth - the problem lies with the US citizen. Since USCs have no
need for immigration services they also have little (if any) knowlege
of the immigration process... and so they start from an incorrect
premise - that they can marry anyone they want and, by the simple
virtue of them being a USC, the process will be a piece of cake. Then
the reality sets in. They find that immigration is expensive and very
time consuming... and they scream bloody murder because they are
separated from their loved one - all the time believing that their
initial premise was correct.

Your position seems predicated on this false premise.

Ian
snowbunny - 26 Oct 2006 15:53 GMT
> I have said this before, but it bears repeating. By and large, US
> citizens have no need for immigration services *except* as it relates
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Ian

Perhaps if the US government gave its citizens a decent civic education,
hell, a decent education in general....

This process does NOT have to be as hard as it is!  There will always be
some people who underestimate the difficulty of any task and complain,
but when the task is Herculean who doesn't?
bluesails - 26 Oct 2006 16:35 GMT
> Perhaps if the US government gave its citizens a decent civic
> education, hell, a decent education in general....
>
> This process does NOT have to be as hard as it is!  There will always
> be some people who underestimate the difficulty of any task and
> complain, but when the task is Herculean who doesn't?

Here's another interesting article on the issue:

http://americanfamiliesunited.com/forum/index.php?topic=83.0
Rete - 26 Oct 2006 21:39 GMT
> Perhaps if the US government gave its citizens a decent civic
> education, hell, a decent education in general....
>
> This process does NOT have to be as hard as it is!  There will always
> be some people who underestimate the difficulty of any task and
> complain, but when the task is Herculean who doesn't?

What has a civics education got to do with immigration.  You believe
that a semester or a year studying immigration issues should part of the
course study?

I went to public school, as did my daugthers.  I felt I had a decent
education and had no problems entering and graduating from college.  My
daugthers are well read and can write and do math and know they history
past and present.

I know many people, yourself included apparently, are dissatisfied with
the US and its educational system and I grant you there is much room for
improvement but the fault does not lie solely on the shoulders of the
School Administrators.  The blame is shared in large by the parents who
don't supervisor their children's progress in school, homework or lives
because they are busy making money or acting as doormats for their
offspring.

Signature

I'm not an attorney.  This disclaimer is valid in NYS!

bluesails - 26 Oct 2006 06:58 GMT
> * Lower barriers to legal immigration for immediate family members of
>   US citizens.
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
> it difficult to see any chance of anybody wishing to invest the
> political clout to change it, no votes in it. Well not in my lifetime.

No, this is not just about felons or multiple ewi's.

You can read a small sampling in this article of how easy it is to run
afoul of the laws, no need for a felony, a simple misdemeanor can do it.
One strike, no second chances.  Even if it happened 10, 20, 40 years
ago, doesn't matter.  As of 1996, it can get you deported or if you just
happen to leave the country to visit family or vacation where you never
would have been subject to deportation, it can keep you from ever coming
back to your spouse and kids.

http://americanfamiliesunited.com/forum/index.php?topic=111.0
Voltes34 - 29 Oct 2006 11:36 GMT
| No, this is not just about felons or multiple ewi's.
|
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
| would have been subject to deportation, it can keep you from ever coming
| back to your spouse and kids.

There's a lot of misleading generalities with what you are complaining
about. How about giving specific examples where a simple misdemeanor
resulted in deportation? Give an example where one committed a misdemeanor
and he was given no second chances or waiver to apply for an immigration
benefit. Give an example where the misdemeanor happened 10, 20, or 40 years
ago and yet the person was perpetually barred from ever getting a waiver or
second chance. Give an example where someone was deported for leaving the US
for a reasonable time to visit a family or for going on vacation if he was
already legal before he left.
There are laws for a lot of things to be adhered to in US immigration but to
say that someone was unreasonably barred from returning to the US due to
some minor infractions and no waiver or any other ways to overcome it are
placed in the system is quite unbelievable. To be honest with you, I find
your position to be just pandering to the emotions of people ignorant with
the laws in order to gather support for those with selfish vested interest
in watering down immigration laws.
Before everybody begins clamoring about his "rights" he should also
seriously think about his responsibilities to abide by the laws. Oftentimes,
negligence to acknowledge people not only have rights but responsibilities
ALSO to abide by the laws have caused their problems with immigration in the
first place.
bluesails - 30 Oct 2006 06:12 GMT
> | No, this is not just about felons or multiple ewi's.
> |
[quoted text clipped - 47 lines]
> in the
> first place.

Given your statements here, especially since I have already posted some
articles with the specific examples you asked about, I doubt there is a
rational discussion possible here.  I am posting this reply for others
who might come upon this thread in the future so that it may possibly
foster enlightenment and perhaps catalyst change rather than
entrenchment.

I won't copy all the stories here, just a few from these 2 articles,
there are many, many more - most not published. But each one is a
personal story of how the IIRIRA law passed in 1996 enacted one strike
laws against immigrants including LPRs, that were not enforced as much
until after 9/11 when any chance to throw out a non-citizen became fair
game.  No matter when the conviction happened, no matter the person had
already paid their fine or their time even long before 1996, no matter
that they had a wife or husband, children or grandchildren.  One strike
and you're out.

The option of a waiver is a very subjective thing.  Depending on the
geography where it is filed and the mood of the person reviewing can
mean the difference between a 90% approval rating for waivers and a 20%
approval rating.  That is not equal protection, that is something quite
different.  To say nothing of the expense in money, time and family
hardships involved.

In our own case, it is a very long story.  Going on 5 years now.  What
we paid is priceless, and all because of abuse of discretion, mistake of
fact and mistake of the laws.  But there is no one with authority to
take responsibility to do the right thing.  They can keep passing it on
to someone else until we expire.

From this article, already linked to above:
http://americanfamiliesunited.com/forum/index.php?topic=111.0

" So when Gill [The 82-year-old farmer]—a legal resident with a green
card—went as the last member of his family to apply to become a U-S
citizen, the government's response came as a shock to his son Harry.
“I was in the office,” says Harry. “My wife called me and she said
you know what? Dad got a deportation letter. And I said what?"

The reason? Something that happened here 15 years ago, at a gas station
the family owns that was plagued by drug dealers. [...]Gurdev Gill was
fined and given probation for possessing a loaded firearm, never serving
a day in jail. That was in 1991. And at the time, the incident would not
have affected Gill's status in this country. But now, 15 years later,
the government claims that old misdemeanor makes him a dangerous man who
should be deported."

and this one:

"21-year-old Sam Nhek, who was born in a refugee camp in Thailand after
his Cambodian mother barely escaped the infamous “killing fields”
that claimed his father’s life. Sam was a year old when they legally
settled in the U.S., where his mom remarried and he grew up as a typical
Southern California kid.

But one day he went joyriding in a stolen car with a friend and wound up
serving time in jail for possession of stolen property. Because Sam
wasn’t eligible for citizenship until he turned 18—and was therefore
still a green card holder and not a U.S. citizen—that joyriding
offense is about to get him deported. "

"Joren Lyons of San Francisco's non-profit Asian Law Caucus complains
that the law doesn't take any personal factors into account. “Once the
case has been filed,” says Lyons, “the immigration judges themselves
have no discretion at all.”

From this article:
http://americanfamiliesunited.com/forum/index.php?topic=83.0

"James (not his real name) is a businessman. He is 62 and he now lives
in the English Home Counties. But he ought to be living in America, with
his wife, children and grandchildren. For 15 years, he ran a company in
the US. He met and married an American woman, and lived in Virginia. The
couple have eight children, two of them adopted from Vietnam. They also
cared for two grandchildren when their daughter suffered depression.

Now James is an exile, unable to see his family. He is a victim of a US
law introduced on a wave of anti-immigrant feeling eight years ago and
now ruthlessly enforced in post-9/11 America. This law makes no
distinction between a youthful misdemeanour and murder, between white-
collar fraud and terrorism. It can have you expelled from the US as a
"criminal alien" for a minor offence committed two or three decades ago;
it converts a conviction for petty theft, minor assault or shoplifting
into a much more serious charge of aggravated felony requiring
deportation. "

"83-year-old Frenchman - guilty of a long-forgotten minor offence - was
put on a plane back to Paris after living in the US for 52 years. He had
been held for seven months and was deported even though he had nowhere
in France to go. As a result of the deportation, he lost all his US
social security benefits."

"In Georgia, Mary Anne Gehris, a mother of two children, one of them
suffering from cerebral palsy, faced deportation to Germany. She did not
even speak the language. She had been adopted in Germany when she was
two weeks old and taken to the US by her American parents. Her "crime"
was a conviction for misdemeanour battery - punished with a one-year
suspended sentence and 60 hours of community service - after a hair-
pulling scuffle with a boyfriend.

It was only when she applied for US citizenship (her parents, though
themselves US citizens, had never got round to taking it out for her)
that the offence came to the attention of the Immigration and
Naturalisation Service (INS). On the form, she gave an honest answer to
a question about previous convictions."

You can read more about IIRIRA 1996 here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IIRIRA
fatbrit - 26 Oct 2006 16:43 GMT
> American Familes United, on the web at www.americanfamiliesunited.org,
> has begun the process to become a non-profit under section 501(c)(4)
[quoted text clipped - 44 lines]
> Randall Emery
> co-founder

Congratulations and good luck in your new endeavor. I hope it will
eventually bring about some long overdue changes to this broken system.
Boiler - 26 Oct 2006 18:30 GMT
> Congratulations and good luck in your new endeavor. I hope it
> will eventually bring about some long overdue changes to this
> broken system.

There is something horribly wrong with a system that allows illegal
entry, well no serious attempt to restrict such entries, and one that
requires those entering legally to wait so long.

It took us 11 months to get our K, another 15 months to get my GC.

To go the other way, a day! Or if you want to be long winded, 3 weeks.

It never occurred to me to use a Lawyer. It would help if they at least
re-issued the forms using Plain English, perhaps there would be less mis-
understandings. And the cost would be quickly recouped.
Elvira - 27 Oct 2006 19:13 GMT
> American Familes United, on the web at www.americanfamiliesunited.org,
> has begun the process to become a non-profit under section 501(c)(4)
[quoted text clipped - 44 lines]
> Randall Emery
> co-founder

I do not doubt that the process for USCs bringing a spouse or other
relative to the US could be simplified.

However, what about LPRs? Why is it virtually impossible for a LPR to
bring a spouse to the US until they have become citizens - which
takes years?
Boiler - 27 Oct 2006 19:48 GMT
> I do not doubt that the process for USCs bringing a spouse or other
> relative to the US could be simplified.
>
> However, what about LPRs? Why is it virtually impossible for a LPR to
> bring a spouse to the US until they have become citizens - which
> takes years?

Because they can not vote?
 
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