American Families United - advocacy for US citizens and their families
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Randall Emery - 26 Oct 2006 01:58 GMT American Familes United, on the web at www.americanfamiliesunited.org, has begun the process to become a non-profit under section 501(c)(4) of the internal revenue code.
Our history: We got started on January 2nd of 2006 as an email list, but have grown to become, to the best of our knowlede, the sole voice lobbying for American citizens sponsoring their spouses and children.
Our mission: With a firm conviction that the right to keep a family together is a fundamental freedom, American Families United works to ensure that American immigration law protects families. We represent American citizens who are sponsoring immediate family members for immigration. In order to respect the right to family, this process must not only encourage family unity but also minimize family separation. American Families United pursues both legislative and media strategies to guarantee that the immigration process faced by families is fair, timely and transparent.
Our current activities: American Families United has approached several Congressmen and Senators. By raising awareness of the issues facing American citizens and their families and providing proposed legislative solutions to them, we have made much progress toward fixing an immigration system that currently divides American families. We continue our work to ensure that future legislation recognizes and promotes the importance of the American family. Our proposals would:
* Lower barriers to legal immigration for immediate family members of US citizens. * Improve availability of waivers of inadmissibility for spouses of US citizens. * Eliminate administrative delays in completing background checks. * Enforce accountability within the immigration process so that government errors and long delays do not cause further separation. * Create incentives that encourage the government to process petitions, visas and security clearances in a timely manner, and reverse the current system that has no consequences for delays, stalling or wrongfully denying a lawful benefit.
If you would like to be an active part of making a positive change, we could really use your help. We are gearing up now for the next Congress, and the members we have, the more effective we can be. Please take a moment to check us out:
http://www.americanfamiliesunited.org
Thanks, Randall Emery co-founder
meauxna - 26 Oct 2006 02:00 GMT > American Familes United, on the web at www.americanfamiliesunited.org, > has begun the process to become a non-profit under section 501(c)(4) [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > Randall Emery > co-founder FTR, I saw Randall post this elsewhere and invited him to post here. meauxna Moderator @ britishexpats.com
Boiler - 26 Oct 2006 03:02 GMT > American Familes United, on the web at www.americanfamiliesunited.org, > has begun the process to become a non-profit under section 501(c)(4) [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > Randall Emery > co-founder * Lower barriers to legal immigration for immediate family members of US citizens.
What barriers for immediate family members? Apart from the usual processing time.
* Improve availability of waivers of inadmissibility for spouses of US citizens.
Not sure what this means, are you talking about Felons and/or those who are mutiple EWI's?.
* Eliminate administrative delays in completing background checks.
That is very much a minority problem.
* Enforce accountability within the immigration process so that government errors and long delays do not cause further separation.
I have a dream...
* Create incentives that encourage the government to process petitions, visas and security clearances in a timely manner, and reverse the current system that has no consequences for delays, stalling or wrongfully denying a lawful benefit.
Well that would be nice, but would require a fundamental redesign of the whole process, and I have yet to see any proposal that would address this. Being realistic bearing in mind Congress effectively designs the process, and complicates it every time it meddles, I find it difficult to see any chance of anybody wishing to invest the political clout to change it, no votes in it. Well not in my lifetime.
Randall Emery - 26 Oct 2006 05:13 GMT > * Lower barriers to legal immigration for immediate family members of > US citizens. [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > it difficult to see any chance of anybody wishing to invest the > political clout to change it, no votes in it. Well not in my lifetime. There are thousands of citizens separate from their spouses because of immigration law. You can read some representative real life cases of barriers to legal immigration for immediate family members of American citizens on the front page of our website: http://www.americanfamiliesunited.org
Specifically, there are over 400,000 people are currently waiting on name check delays. The NY Times article published a very good article describing the problem on Monday: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/23/nyregion/23citizen.html?_r=1&o- ref=slogin
Our members have met with several Congressmen and Senators personally, and the proposal to encourage the processing of security checks has support on both sides of the aisle. In fact, it has already made its way through part of the process to becoming law.
What's needed now is the actions of people directly affected. You know who you are. The problem is that the politicians don't. You need to reach out to them. Nobody is going to do it for you -- in fact, if you don't at least speak up for yourself, nobody else can really even support you.
Boiler - 26 Oct 2006 07:04 GMT > There are thousands of citizens separate from their spouses because of > immigration law. You can read some representative real life cases of [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > fact, if you don't at least speak up for yourself, nobody else can > really even support you. The front page of your web site is confusing but:
Nancy it seems tried to enter on a non immigrant visa with immigrant intent?
Paola could have obtaind AP and travelled whilst she was waiting to adjust status.
Frank seems to have been badly advised, a bit of research would have helped. Difficult to comment further as pertinant information has not been mentioned.
Why did Ismail not just get a duplicate GC?
In 1998, Myrna went to Mexico to attend her grandmother’s funeral and, according to authorities, falsely claimed U.S. citizenship to get back in—a deportable offense. In the process, she was fingerprinted. So how did she get in?
David's wife was barred for 10 years for working illegally? Not a barrable offence as far as I am aware. So what's the story?
Joseph was arrested for possesion of marijuana and then complains that the prosecutor should have advised her to plead guilty to a different offence to mitigate the impact on her PR status.
You need much better stories. Or at least document them properly.
snowbunny - 26 Oct 2006 07:12 GMT > The front page of your web site is confusing but: > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > You need much better stories. Or at least document them properly. To be fair not everyone ought to require the services of an immigration lawyer simply to be reunited with their families. The immigration law is horrible, there is too much discretion without review.... if the IRS started acting as the INS, I mean USCIS, there would be an uproar. While perhaps the non-USC family member has no "rights" under US law, I believe very strongly that the USC member(s) do have every right to respect clear and timely action AND advice from USCIS.
bluesails - 26 Oct 2006 20:07 GMT > The front page of your web site is confusing but: > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > You need much better stories. Or at least document them properly. Thanks for the feedback.
How is it confusing? Is it that you didn't know how rampant family separation can be or the English is not clear or like you mentioned, would just like to have more details on the stories?
Obviously it is impossible to include all the details in a short paragraph. We are trying to link to published articles with more information, where available.
Boiler - 26 Oct 2006 20:15 GMT > Thanks for the feedback. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > paragraph. We are trying to link to published articles with more > information, where available. The stories on the front page are confusing.
Like most on this board I have suffered the US Immigration system. And having been bit by it once, ended up finding far more about it than I need to know.
I read the stories and listed my comments, now if I found the stories confusing so how would Joe Public, or Jane Public, who has very limited knowledge of how the system works find it?
The drivel you see in the local rags are bad enough on this subject, I can sort of excuse a reporter with limited interest and knowledge, but I am assuming you and your colleagues do have an understanding of how the system works and what actually happened and what went wrong.
Randall Emery - 26 Oct 2006 22:42 GMT > The stories on the front page are confusing. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I am assuming you and your colleagues do have an understanding of how > the system works and what actually happened and what went wrong. snowbunny, fatbrit, bluesails -- thank you for the words of encouragement. I hope you will take a minute and join as members, if you haven't done so already, so we can keep in touch with you. Our address again is: http://www.americanfamiliesunited.org
Ian -- I think that to an extent you are right, but do be aware that we are lobbying on issues that keep US citizens separated from their families for years, not months or days. We do all share a strong belief that we should be able to marry who we want and that immigration law should not separate families.
Regarding the website, it is targetted to the general public, an audience for whom it is a big shock to learn that the spouse of a US citizen is not automatically a US citizen. We feel that sharing very detailed immigration information is not especially helpful to this audience. But let me be clear: the stories are accurate and true.
Randall
ian-mstm - 29 Oct 2006 14:28 GMT > snowbunny, fatbrit, bluesails -- thank you for the words of > encouragement. I hope you will take a minute and join as members, if [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Randall As an immigrant to the US, I am well aware that familes are separated for years... so your response is very much a non sequitur.
I have no problem with people marrying whomever they want, but immigration law was designed to keep non-USCs out of the US. The fact that families are separated as a result is unfortunate, but this is akin to saying that since many people die in hospitals, hospital policy should be altered so that people don't die there!
The problem, as I indicated before, is that people are ignorant of immigration law. They assume it's a walk in the park... but it isn't. Those who are emotionally mature understand that there will be a period of separation and they will take it in stride. This is not to say that they like the separation, but but they understand that the long-term gain overshadows the short-term separation. Those who are emotionally immature - especially those whose hormones are overshadowing their brain - are those who are likely to complain the most.
Immigration is not for the faint of heart... it can be very stressful. I can't begin to count the number of people who have posted here who view immigration as a burden rather than as an adventure. They complain from day one! They have no patience, no emotional maturity, and they throw temper tantrums that would rival those of a two-year old.
I'll be the first to admit that the wheels of immigration grind slowly... but they do grind. Immigration law was designed to keep non- USCs out of the US and I, for one, don't want to see that change just because some foreigner happened to chat up a USC.
Ian
bluesails - 26 Oct 2006 22:46 GMT > The stories on the front page are confusing. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > I am assuming you and your colleagues do have an understanding of how > the system works and what actually happened and what went wrong. Yes of course, like you, we know far more than we ever thought we would need to. That is the crux of it though, because as you say Jane/Joe Public knows almost nothing. So the balance between making the complex simple and understandable without trying to explain all the details that starts to glaze over the eyes.
As I said, we have linked to more details where there are published articles, but the simple complexities of the laws, of the failure of the system to work as described or pure years worth of details, forces us to try to distill it down to the basic facts.
So that was our objective, you say it came out confusing for you I am hoping to get a better understanding of what is confusing about it so that it can be made more clear.
Did the 2-3 stories that have links to more complete articles help in those to make them clear? Having them all linked to more details would clear it up? Or other suggestions?
Thanks for your feedback.
Boiler - 26 Oct 2006 23:59 GMT > Yes of course, like you, we know far more than we ever thought we > would need to. That is the crux of it though, because as you say [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Thanks for your feedback. I will go and read them again in detail.
I think it would help to be specific on the issues, lets be realistic the only people interested in this subject have a direct reason to be so.
ian-mstm - 26 Oct 2006 14:26 GMT > There are thousands of citizens separate from their spouses because of > immigration law. You can read some representative real life cases of [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > fact, if you don't at least speak up for yourself, nobody else can > really even support you. I have said this before, but it bears repeating. By and large, US citizens have no need for immigration services *except* as it relates to some non-USC. Should the US ignore the immigration process because some foreigner happens to hook up to a USC?
While I don't disagree with anything you've said, I'll tell you a simple truth - the problem lies with the US citizen. Since USCs have no need for immigration services they also have little (if any) knowlege of the immigration process... and so they start from an incorrect premise - that they can marry anyone they want and, by the simple virtue of them being a USC, the process will be a piece of cake. Then the reality sets in. They find that immigration is expensive and very time consuming... and they scream bloody murder because they are separated from their loved one - all the time believing that their initial premise was correct.
Your position seems predicated on this false premise.
Ian
snowbunny - 26 Oct 2006 15:53 GMT > I have said this before, but it bears repeating. By and large, US > citizens have no need for immigration services *except* as it relates [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Ian Perhaps if the US government gave its citizens a decent civic education, hell, a decent education in general....
This process does NOT have to be as hard as it is! There will always be some people who underestimate the difficulty of any task and complain, but when the task is Herculean who doesn't?
bluesails - 26 Oct 2006 16:35 GMT > Perhaps if the US government gave its citizens a decent civic > education, hell, a decent education in general.... > > This process does NOT have to be as hard as it is! There will always > be some people who underestimate the difficulty of any task and > complain, but when the task is Herculean who doesn't? Here's another interesting article on the issue:
http://americanfamiliesunited.com/forum/index.php?topic=83.0
Rete - 26 Oct 2006 21:39 GMT > Perhaps if the US government gave its citizens a decent civic > education, hell, a decent education in general.... > > This process does NOT have to be as hard as it is! There will always > be some people who underestimate the difficulty of any task and > complain, but when the task is Herculean who doesn't? What has a civics education got to do with immigration. You believe that a semester or a year studying immigration issues should part of the course study?
I went to public school, as did my daugthers. I felt I had a decent education and had no problems entering and graduating from college. My daugthers are well read and can write and do math and know they history past and present.
I know many people, yourself included apparently, are dissatisfied with the US and its educational system and I grant you there is much room for improvement but the fault does not lie solely on the shoulders of the School Administrators. The blame is shared in large by the parents who don't supervisor their children's progress in school, homework or lives because they are busy making money or acting as doormats for their offspring.
 Signature I'm not an attorney. This disclaimer is valid in NYS!
bluesails - 26 Oct 2006 06:58 GMT > * Lower barriers to legal immigration for immediate family members of > US citizens. [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > it difficult to see any chance of anybody wishing to invest the > political clout to change it, no votes in it. Well not in my lifetime. No, this is not just about felons or multiple ewi's.
You can read a small sampling in this article of how easy it is to run afoul of the laws, no need for a felony, a simple misdemeanor can do it. One strike, no second chances. Even if it happened 10, 20, 40 years ago, doesn't matter. As of 1996, it can get you deported or if you just happen to leave the country to visit family or vacation where you never would have been subject to deportation, it can keep you from ever coming back to your spouse and kids.
http://americanfamiliesunited.com/forum/index.php?topic=111.0
Voltes34 - 29 Oct 2006 11:36 GMT | No, this is not just about felons or multiple ewi's. | [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] | would have been subject to deportation, it can keep you from ever coming | back to your spouse and kids. There's a lot of misleading generalities with what you are complaining about. How about giving specific examples where a simple misdemeanor resulted in deportation? Give an example where one committed a misdemeanor and he was given no second chances or waiver to apply for an immigration benefit. Give an example where the misdemeanor happened 10, 20, or 40 years ago and yet the person was perpetually barred from ever getting a waiver or second chance. Give an example where someone was deported for leaving the US for a reasonable time to visit a family or for going on vacation if he was already legal before he left. There are laws for a lot of things to be adhered to in US immigration but to say that someone was unreasonably barred from returning to the US due to some minor infractions and no waiver or any other ways to overcome it are placed in the system is quite unbelievable. To be honest with you, I find your position to be just pandering to the emotions of people ignorant with the laws in order to gather support for those with selfish vested interest in watering down immigration laws. Before everybody begins clamoring about his "rights" he should also seriously think about his responsibilities to abide by the laws. Oftentimes, negligence to acknowledge people not only have rights but responsibilities ALSO to abide by the laws have caused their problems with immigration in the first place.
bluesails - 30 Oct 2006 06:12 GMT > | No, this is not just about felons or multiple ewi's. > | [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > in the > first place. Given your statements here, especially since I have already posted some articles with the specific examples you asked about, I doubt there is a rational discussion possible here. I am posting this reply for others who might come upon this thread in the future so that it may possibly foster enlightenment and perhaps catalyst change rather than entrenchment.
I won't copy all the stories here, just a few from these 2 articles, there are many, many more - most not published. But each one is a personal story of how the IIRIRA law passed in 1996 enacted one strike laws against immigrants including LPRs, that were not enforced as much until after 9/11 when any chance to throw out a non-citizen became fair game. No matter when the conviction happened, no matter the person had already paid their fine or their time even long before 1996, no matter that they had a wife or husband, children or grandchildren. One strike and you're out.
The option of a waiver is a very subjective thing. Depending on the geography where it is filed and the mood of the person reviewing can mean the difference between a 90% approval rating for waivers and a 20% approval rating. That is not equal protection, that is something quite different. To say nothing of the expense in money, time and family hardships involved.
In our own case, it is a very long story. Going on 5 years now. What we paid is priceless, and all because of abuse of discretion, mistake of fact and mistake of the laws. But there is no one with authority to take responsibility to do the right thing. They can keep passing it on to someone else until we expire.
From this article, already linked to above: http://americanfamiliesunited.com/forum/index.php?topic=111.0
" So when Gill [The 82-year-old farmer]—a legal resident with a green card—went as the last member of his family to apply to become a U-S citizen, the government's response came as a shock to his son Harry. “I was in the office,†says Harry. “My wife called me and she said you know what? Dad got a deportation letter. And I said what?"
The reason? Something that happened here 15 years ago, at a gas station the family owns that was plagued by drug dealers. [...]Gurdev Gill was fined and given probation for possessing a loaded firearm, never serving a day in jail. That was in 1991. And at the time, the incident would not have affected Gill's status in this country. But now, 15 years later, the government claims that old misdemeanor makes him a dangerous man who should be deported."
and this one:
"21-year-old Sam Nhek, who was born in a refugee camp in Thailand after his Cambodian mother barely escaped the infamous “killing fields†that claimed his father’s life. Sam was a year old when they legally settled in the U.S., where his mom remarried and he grew up as a typical Southern California kid.
But one day he went joyriding in a stolen car with a friend and wound up serving time in jail for possession of stolen property. Because Sam wasn’t eligible for citizenship until he turned 18—and was therefore still a green card holder and not a U.S. citizen—that joyriding offense is about to get him deported. "
"Joren Lyons of San Francisco's non-profit Asian Law Caucus complains that the law doesn't take any personal factors into account. “Once the case has been filed,†says Lyons, “the immigration judges themselves have no discretion at all.â€
From this article: http://americanfamiliesunited.com/forum/index.php?topic=83.0
"James (not his real name) is a businessman. He is 62 and he now lives in the English Home Counties. But he ought to be living in America, with his wife, children and grandchildren. For 15 years, he ran a company in the US. He met and married an American woman, and lived in Virginia. The couple have eight children, two of them adopted from Vietnam. They also cared for two grandchildren when their daughter suffered depression.
Now James is an exile, unable to see his family. He is a victim of a US law introduced on a wave of anti-immigrant feeling eight years ago and now ruthlessly enforced in post-9/11 America. This law makes no distinction between a youthful misdemeanour and murder, between white- collar fraud and terrorism. It can have you expelled from the US as a "criminal alien" for a minor offence committed two or three decades ago; it converts a conviction for petty theft, minor assault or shoplifting into a much more serious charge of aggravated felony requiring deportation. "
"83-year-old Frenchman - guilty of a long-forgotten minor offence - was put on a plane back to Paris after living in the US for 52 years. He had been held for seven months and was deported even though he had nowhere in France to go. As a result of the deportation, he lost all his US social security benefits."
"In Georgia, Mary Anne Gehris, a mother of two children, one of them suffering from cerebral palsy, faced deportation to Germany. She did not even speak the language. She had been adopted in Germany when she was two weeks old and taken to the US by her American parents. Her "crime" was a conviction for misdemeanour battery - punished with a one-year suspended sentence and 60 hours of community service - after a hair- pulling scuffle with a boyfriend.
It was only when she applied for US citizenship (her parents, though themselves US citizens, had never got round to taking it out for her) that the offence came to the attention of the Immigration and Naturalisation Service (INS). On the form, she gave an honest answer to a question about previous convictions."
You can read more about IIRIRA 1996 here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IIRIRA
fatbrit - 26 Oct 2006 16:43 GMT > American Familes United, on the web at www.americanfamiliesunited.org, > has begun the process to become a non-profit under section 501(c)(4) [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > Randall Emery > co-founder Congratulations and good luck in your new endeavor. I hope it will eventually bring about some long overdue changes to this broken system.
Boiler - 26 Oct 2006 18:30 GMT > Congratulations and good luck in your new endeavor. I hope it > will eventually bring about some long overdue changes to this > broken system. There is something horribly wrong with a system that allows illegal entry, well no serious attempt to restrict such entries, and one that requires those entering legally to wait so long.
It took us 11 months to get our K, another 15 months to get my GC.
To go the other way, a day! Or if you want to be long winded, 3 weeks.
It never occurred to me to use a Lawyer. It would help if they at least re-issued the forms using Plain English, perhaps there would be less mis- understandings. And the cost would be quickly recouped.
Elvira - 27 Oct 2006 19:13 GMT > American Familes United, on the web at www.americanfamiliesunited.org, > has begun the process to become a non-profit under section 501(c)(4) [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > Randall Emery > co-founder I do not doubt that the process for USCs bringing a spouse or other relative to the US could be simplified.
However, what about LPRs? Why is it virtually impossible for a LPR to bring a spouse to the US until they have become citizens - which takes years?
Boiler - 27 Oct 2006 19:48 GMT > I do not doubt that the process for USCs bringing a spouse or other > relative to the US could be simplified. > > However, what about LPRs? Why is it virtually impossible for a LPR to > bring a spouse to the US until they have become citizens - which > takes years? Because they can not vote?
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