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Divorce After citizenship

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parryh - 27 Oct 2006 17:44 GMT
Hello

Me an my wife have been married for five years , i got my citizenship
thru 3 years of marriage based on my approval of greencard.. i was out
of a job so founf a job in another state and asked my wife to move
which she refused too and i did not wanna sit home with no money ..and
i filed for divorce .. she contested the divorce says i married her
for Citizenship only... i told her she could move with me where i am
rite now and i dont want divorce but she refuses .. will i lose my
citizenship due to my divorce on grounds that she is says i used her
to gain it.
fatbrit - 27 Oct 2006 17:48 GMT
> Hello
>
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> citizenship due to my divorce on grounds that she is says i used her
> to gain it.

Pretty difficult to lose your citizenship. Never say never and all that,
but I'm going to say "No" to your question.
ian-mstm - 27 Oct 2006 23:08 GMT
> Hello
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> citizenship due to my divorce on grounds that she is says i used her
> to gain it.

She can contest the divorce, but you will certainly not lose your
citizenship just because she makes it a divorce issue.

Ian
Folinskyinla - 28 Oct 2006 01:03 GMT
> Hello
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> citizenship due to my divorce on grounds that she is says i used her
> to gain it.

Hi:

Family law is a matter of state law, not Federal law.  It sounds like
she is counter-claiming for an anullment ["nullity" in CA].  As a
general rule, it is hard to prove.  The lead California case [Marriage
of Rabie] from the 70's had a pretty compelling set of facts -- it seems
that Manoucher Rabie dumped his girlfriend for not marrying him [slight
technicality of estranged husband, but I digress] in order to marry
someone else.  Gets green card and dumps wife to go back to girlfriend.
A little too much pillow talk takes place.  Manoucher then made a very
BIG mistake -- he dumped the girl friend again -- and she was star
witness at the nullity hearing.

Go see a family law lawyers.

Check with a family lawyer.

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Rete - 28 Oct 2006 03:55 GMT
> Hello
>
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> citizenship due to my divorce on grounds that she is says i used her
> to gain it.

Crappy reason to file for a divorce.  But then perhaps that was your
intent anyway.

Many others here have a spouse who works in another state and they
remain married and visit on long weekends, holidays, etc.

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frrussre - 29 Oct 2006 04:55 GMT
> Crappy reason to file for a divorce.  But then perhaps that was your
> intent anyway.
>
> Many others here have a spouse who works in another state and they
> remain married and visit on long weekends, holidays, etc.

[QUOTE=Rete]

"What Is Proper Etiquette"

I've noticed that we have a developed a pattern on BE of scaring away
newbies as soon as they cross the threshold. While I'm no angel, there
are some of our regulars who go out of their way to be caustic,
sarcastic and argumentative when a situation is outlined and a
assistance is asked for by a newbie.

Just because you feel that a situation clearly shouts 'intent' does not
make it so. Draw a newbie out with questions rather than going for the
jugular on the first post. Allow the newbie to answer questions without
having to feel judged and found wanting.

Remember you were once them. It might have been last year or ten years
ago, but you were just as ignorant as they were and someone else held
your hand and helped you to understand the system.

Be polite and courteous. It doesn't hurt and it actually helps those
needing a friend with a bit more experience than they have.
WOW, that did not last long.
Reg. Frank R.
Rete - 29 Oct 2006 13:52 GMT
> http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=404105
>
> WOW, that did not last long.
> Reg. Frank R.

That's scaring him away?  Don't think so.  But thanks for your thoughts.
Much appreciated.

Still think it is a crappy reason for a divorce.

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parryh - 29 Oct 2006 16:42 GMT
> That's scaring him away?  Don't think so.  But thanks for your
> thoughts.  Much appreciated.
>
> Still think it is a crappy reason for a divorce.

Well first she does not wanna move where i have a job and can support
her 2nd she had this tendancy for spending a dollar when our earning is
50 cents. she had extremly bad credit mine has gone a little bad.we
always have fights over finances.
psychobabbler1 - 29 Oct 2006 18:17 GMT
> Well first she does not wanna move where i have a job and can support
> her 2nd she had this tendancy for spending a dollar when our earning
> is 50 cents. she had extremly bad credit mine has gone a little bad.we
> always have fights over finances.

Have you tried to go to financial counseling as well as marriage
counseling?
Financial stress will kill a marriage quicker than anything. even
an affair.

Is your wife well established in her job?  If so, maybe that's one
reason why she doesn't want to move, and I can understand that.  I have
17 years experience where I am employed and was/am reluctant to
transfer because it would make me low (wo)man on the totem pole.  It
was something DH and I discussed a bit before we got married but it
still ended up being a problem when the jobs he was qualified for were
mostly all 2-3 hour at best commutes from where we lived.  We were
lucky that one came up locally.  I know it comes across as selfish,
esp. considering that he left his family, friends and country to move
here, but we are working through it as best we can.  I hope you are
able to do the same.
Rete - 30 Oct 2006 02:41 GMT
> Well first she does not wanna move where i have a job and can support
> her 2nd she had this tendancy for spending a dollar when our earning
> is 50 cents. she had extremly bad credit mine has gone a little bad.we
> always have fights over finances.

I'm withpsycho on this, get yourselves to a marriage counselor.  Neither
of those reasons seem, at least to me, to warrant a divorce.  We've not
heard from her and I'm sure she will chime in with your faults and at
the moment her vindicativeness appears, on the surface, to be one that
someone who is being dumped while they still love the other person says
to strike back.

You married her and knew of her tendency to buy and spend above her
income level and that didn't stop the marriage from taking place.   I
urge you not to throw in the towel so quickly on a marriage unless, of
course, it is a marriage that you don't want and perhaps never did.

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