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lauramunden2001@yahoo.com - 05 Sep 2008 19:50 GMT hi i came over here in 2001 with my 2 children to visit my boyfriend who is a american by birth, we can on a visa waiver program from the uk. well the story is we got married while i was here legally, and just stayed on, now my oldest son has graduated school and my youngest has just started high school, but we have done nothing legally to change our status, so in effect we are here illegally but came into the country legally, what do i do now, my son wants to work but hasn't got a ssn etc, and some of the info i have received i will have to leave the us and start the process from the uk, my kids really only have known living here, and i can't take them out of the country, and it just seems to expensive all the paper work to do, is there a easy way of doing it or do i have to try and find about $6000 to make us legal. thanks for any input
Joe Feise (Immigration) - 06 Sep 2008 06:13 GMT lauramunden2001@yahoo.com wrote on 09/05/08 11:50:
> hi > i came over here in 2001 with my 2 children to visit my boyfriend who [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > of doing it or do i have to try and find about $6000 to make us legal. > thanks for any input This depends on a lot of things. Generally, overstays are sort-of forgiven for spouses of US citizens. So, your husband could file an I-130 for you and you could file an I-485 to get a Greencard. For your children, it may or may not be possible to get a GC. In general, whenever there is some doubt, the best way is to seek the advice of an immigration lawyer.
 Signature I am not a lawyer. For reliable advice, consult a competent immigration attorney.
Capt. Tuttle - 07 Sep 2008 16:35 GMT Joe Feise (Immigration) laid this down on his screen :
> lauramunden2001@yahoo.com wrote on 09/05/08 11:50: > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > In general, whenever there is some doubt, the best way is to seek the advice > of an immigration lawyer. I will only add there is no "easy way". $6000 seems a bit high to me, but it isn't going to be cheap either.
P D Fritz - 11 Sep 2008 04:46 GMT | hi | i came over here in 2001 with my 2 children to visit my boyfriend who [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] | of doing it or do i have to try and find about $6000 to make us legal. | thanks for any input I know this will not solve anything but had your husband filed the petition as soon as you two got married you could have possibly been a US citizen by now. Back in 2002 the fees were a lot cheaper too. Ignoring the law or not taking it seriously can have difficult consequences.
lauramunden2001@yahoo.com - 11 Sep 2008 19:53 GMT > <lauramunden2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > now. Back in 2002 the fees were a lot cheaper too. > Ignoring the law or not taking it seriously can have difficult consequences. I don't want to change my citizenship i just want to change my status, i love living here but i don't want to give up my british passport, it just seems strange that i'm from a country that is the US best ally and friend, and they are making it so hard and difficult and expensive, but they have no problem letting people in from the middle east etc and just give them everything
Joe Feise (Immigration) - 12 Sep 2008 03:31 GMT lauramunden2001@yahoo.com wrote on 09/11/08 11:53:
>> <lauramunden2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > expensive, but they have no problem letting people in from the middle > east etc and just give them everything You know, that attitude of yours is disturbing. What makes you a better person than people from the Middle East??? Just a reminder to your ilk, the so-called shoe-bomber Richard Reid was from your country, with a British passport. You are no better than any other foreigner, even if you happen to speak the same language. Geez, that there are still snotty Brits around... Now get an education. We don't need any more bigoted idiots here. *PLONK!*
Capt. Tuttle - 12 Sep 2008 16:43 GMT Joe Feise (Immigration) brought next idea :
> lauramunden2001@yahoo.com wrote on 09/11/08 11:53: > [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > Now get an education. We don't need any more bigoted idiots here. > *PLONK!* Way to go Joe!!!
J. J. Farrell - 14 Sep 2008 23:16 GMT > lauramunden2001@yahoo.com wrote on 09/11/08 11:53: > [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > Now get an education. We don't need any more bigoted idiots here. > *PLONK!* Yes; an intriguing attitude, and embarrassing rather than representative. The people who get let in (and certainly not without problems) are those who obey the law; those who break the law and become illegal immigrants like the original poster are bound to find it more difficult, and should be grateful if they're allowed to get legal at all.
lauramunden2001@yahoo.com - 25 Sep 2008 00:30 GMT > > lauramunden2...@yahoo.com wrote on 09/11/08 11:53: > [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > illegal immigrants like the original poster are bound to find it more > difficult, and should be grateful if they're allowed to get legal at all. you have just shown how ignorant and self righteous the americans THINK they are, you make such a great big deal about being the greatest country in the world, everyone of you in this country is an immigrant, at least i come from a country where they are proud of their education, how dare you say that i have none, you have no idea about me or my education, and i came here legally, i did not enter this great country of yours illegally, it is you who has an attitude problem, and you who is embarrassing, what is wrong with me not wanting to change my british passport, i'm proud of being british (scottish actually) and with all the travels that i have made and i have made many, i think i am quite right keeping my passport as the british are definately more welcome around this world than americans are, and i am certainly not a bigoted idiot, it is people like you who give america such a bad name and reputation, and unfortunately if you think that i am not a representative of what immigrants are talking about and thinking then you are very sadly wrong. Your whole country is made up of immigrants, so what makes you any better than me
miriamkt - 25 Sep 2008 03:42 GMT Actually I think a lot of the people who post on here have gone through the proper channels to stay here. You don't lose your passport in order to stay here. You apply for a greencard. I would say your only hope is an immigration lawyer or going back to the UK and trying to start the process all over again. You need to do something or your children will have a difficult time trying to get into colleges and Universities in the States. You have to have a Social Security Card for everything. Thus, see a lawyer as soon as possible.
>> > lauramunden2...@yahoo.com wrote on 09/11/08 11:53: >> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >talking about and thinking then you are very sadly wrong. Your whole >country is made up of immigrants, so what makes you any better than me Joe Feise (Immigration) - 25 Sep 2008 05:08 GMT miriamkt wrote on 09/24/08 19:42:
> Actually I think a lot of the people who post on here have gone through the > proper channels to stay here. Indeed. And we didn't whine when pointed to the fact that this is a country of laws, and that people need to follow the laws. This is what education is about... I really wonder what kind of education the OP got in the UK... My education didn't include selfishness and whining. Instead, it included taking responsibility for one's actions, something the OP is sorely lacking.
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lauramunden2001@yahoo.com - 25 Sep 2008 18:27 GMT > Actually I think a lot of the people who post on here have gone through the > proper channels to stay here. You don't lose your passport in order to stay [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > >talking about and thinking then you are very sadly wrong. Your whole > >country is made up of immigrants, so what makes you any better than me Thank you, I know i need to see a lawyer, i just wanted to know exactly what i needed to do, before this person started attacking me personally, that is the whole reason i wanted to find out is because of my children, we never intended to come here and stay over it just happened. I know i don't have to give up my passport i was just replying to someone about citizenship, i don't want to lose my british passport if that makes me a bigot and stupid well i'm sorry, just because i live here does not mean that i don't love my country i do and i'm proud to say i'm scottish thank you for not attacking me
Joe Feise (Immigration) - 25 Sep 2008 04:10 GMT lauramunden2001@yahoo.com wrote on 09/24/08 16:30:
> at least i come from a country where they are proud of > their education Then you missed out, since you obviously haven't gotten any. I know lots of educated Brits, and none would even think such bigotry as you have shown here. And as far as the education is concerned, most of the Nobel Prizes go to Americans. There have only been 6 Brits who got a Nobel Prize in the sciences since 2000 (I only checked that far back, and I excluded the Nobel Peace Prize and the Economics Nobel Prize, which isn't a real Nobel Prize, but is awarded by the Bank of Sweden in memory of Alfred Nobel.) And one of them has dual US and British citizenship...
>, how dare you say that i have none Because you have shown bigotry of the worst kind. Educated people would know better.
>, you have no idea > about me or my education, and i came here legally, i did not enter > this great country of yours illegally But you stayed illegally. That makes you no better than any of the people who came illegally. If you had an education, you would have known better than to stay illegally. So, your actions speak louder than your words: You are a bigoted, uneducated person.
>, it is you who has an attitude > problem, and you who is embarrassing, what is wrong with me not [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > british are definately more welcome around this world than americans > are But you were so eager to come here that you even stayed illegally. Again, your actions speak louder than your words. If you are so proud of being British, why don't you go back??? Despite all your BS about Americans, you seem to like it here, after all. Apparently, Americans aren't all that bad after all... I guess to your simple mind, only white Americans count... It seems you haven't gotten the memo that there are lots of American citizens who are not of European descent. There even are, oh horrible dictu, American citizens from the Middle East...
> and i am certainly not a bigoted idiot, it is people like you
> who give america such a bad name and reputation It is law breakers like *you* who give any society a bad name and reputation... Do you break the laws in the UK as well???
>, and unfortunately if > you think that i am not a representative of what immigrants are > talking about and thinking then you are very sadly wrong. Only bigoted people say or even think the things you wrote. So, are you claiming that all immigrants into this country are bigots??? Who made you the immigrants' representative??? Yet another stupidity, thinking you are an all-knowing deity. You are nothing more than a simple-minded law breaker, and your post once again shows that. You really are in need of an education.
lauramunden2001@yahoo.com - 25 Sep 2008 18:23 GMT On Sep 24, 9:10 pm, "Joe Feise (Immigration)" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> lauramunden2...@yahoo.com wrote on 09/24/08 16:30: > [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > shows that. > You really are in need of an education. You know you should really grow up and stop going on about my education and how stupid you think i am and what a bigot i am and that i'm rascist you have no idea about me, its fine to go on about my question but when you start attacking someone personally, there is something seriously wrong with you. I am not uneducated, i have had a great education, graduated high school and college, so that part of what you wrote it totally wrong. You go on about the Nobel Prizes what the hell has that got to do with anything. You attack me about being a bigot and a rascist, you are wrong on both accounts, is Bigot your word of the day, have you just found out what it means, you have no idea about me whether i'm black, white, chinese, african, arab, nothing, so to accuse me is so wrong, GROW UP I have said before that i like living here, my husband is american that is why we live here, if he had a job in the uk we would be there, if he got a job anywhere in this world we would be there, but he has a job here and that is why we live here. i came on this site to find answers to my question, i never expected to be insulted and accused of things that are so far out of the ball park its stupid, you really need to look back at what you have written and see how you have attacked me personally, i really do not believe there was any need for any of that
Joe Feise (Immigration) - 26 Sep 2008 04:06 GMT lauramunden2001@yahoo.com wrote on 09/25/08 10:23:
> You know you should really grow up and stop going on about my > education and how stupid you think i am and what a bigot i am and that > i'm rascist you have no idea about me I have your post here, and judging from that post, you are what I said. It is up to you to show otherwise, e.g., by apologizing for that stupid post... An educated person doesn't use some minority as scapegoat for his or her own failure to follow the laws. So, it clearly is *you* who has some growing-up to do.
J. J. Farrell - 26 Sep 2008 03:01 GMT >>> lauramunden2...@yahoo.com wrote on 09/11/08 11:53: >>>>> <lauramunden2...@yahoo.com> wrote in message [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > greatest country in the world, everyone of you in this country is an > immigrant, You appear to think that I'm an American. I've no idea why.
> at least i come from a country where they are proud of > their education, how dare you say that i have none, I said nothing of the kind.
> you have no idea about me or my education, That's one reason I said nothing about it. I'd expect it to be fairly good if you got it in Britain.
> and i came here legally, i did not enter > this great country of yours illegally, Based on what you've said here, and assuming you really had no intention whatsoever of staying when you entered, that's clearly true. You broke USA Federal law and became an illegal immigrant when you overstayed your admission period.
> it is you who has an attitude problem, That's a matter of opinion.
> and you who is embarrassing, I don't believe so. I'm not the one who's living illegally in the USA yet whining about the USA making it "so hard and difficult and expensive" for you; I'm not the one who's suggesting you should get some special treatment because you're British; I'm not the one who's suggesting that a Briton in the USA illegally should be treated better than people "from the middle east etc"; I'm not the one making ridiculous claims that the USA is "letting people in from the middle east etc and just give them everything". You certainly embarrass me, and I suspect most Britons would be embarrassed if people were to think that your views and approach are typical of Britons.
> what is wrong with me not wanting to change my british passport, Nothing whatsoever.
> i'm proud of being british > (scottish actually) and with all the travels that i have made and i > have made many, i think i am quite right keeping my passport as the > british are definately more welcome around this world than americans > are, and i am certainly not a bigoted idiot, In that case I suggest you stop saying things which suggest you are bigoted.
> it is people like you > who give america such a bad name and reputation, I can't imagine how.
> and unfortunately if > you think that i am not a representative of what immigrants are > talking about and thinking then you are very sadly wrong. On the contrary, I know that the views and manner you exhibit here are not shared by Britons in general, by British immigrants to the USA, or by immigrants to the USA in general.
> Your whole > country is made up of immigrants, All countries bar one are made up of immigrants in your sense.
> so what makes you any better than me I've no idea whether or not I am. I try not to be bigoted; I try not to whine if other people don't choose to go out of their way to make things easy for me; if I'm a guest somewhere, I do my best to follow the host's rules and not abuse the hospitality; I don't believe my nationality makes me superior to people from other nations or more worthy of favours when I'm abroad; were I to choose to break the law, I'd try to put up with any inconveniences which my choice caused for me and not whine about it. I probably fail frequently on all counts.
miriamkt - 25 Sep 2008 03:44 GMT Oh and nothing to do with the Uscis or immigration is easy. Its all long but in the end should be worth it if you want to stay in the U.S
>hi >i came over here in 2001 with my 2 children to visit my boyfriend who [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >of doing it or do i have to try and find about $6000 to make us legal. >thanks for any input Edward King - 31 Oct 2008 14:29 GMT >hi >i came over here in 2001 with my 2 children to visit my boyfriend who [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >of doing it or do i have to try and find about $6000 to make us legal. >thanks for any input Well this is tricky. First off, you're an illegal immigrant, you overstayed your visa. This is bad, the US immigration authorities take a bad view of this, especially since 9/11. According to the law, given the period of your overstay, you're banned for 10 years from reentering the US.
But you're married to a US citizen, and have been for some time. Chances are you can get away with this, especially since you have been here for some time - see an immigration lawyer to sort this out. You will be eligible for a spouse visa, and citizenship in 3 years.
Plus, there's your kids. If they were born in the US, they're US citizens; doesn't matter what documentation they haven't got, if you can prove they're born in the USA, they're citizens and can apply for and get a SSN.
For more info, try here: http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a /?vgnextoid=39c0194d3e88d010VgnVCM10000048f3d6a1RCRD
Edward
ImmiCoach - 09 Nov 2008 13:47 GMT Ed: She states, the kids are also from overseas. But the situation is not hopeless. She will probably get the spouse visa without too much trouble in due time. Then the kids can stay as relatives and when she gets citizenship the kids became citizens 'automatically', but not immediately. The entire process will take 3-5 years.
In any case, I'd tell all of them, DO NOT leave the USA, incl not to Canada or Mexico over land, sea or air. If you get caught, do NOT sign or agree to anything, ask to be seen by an immigration judge. They'll more than likely let you walk since you have a relative (spouse, stepfather) and a domicile in the USA. When you show up for the fist hearing before the immigration judge in 2 or 3 months ask for a lawyer and an interpreter if needed. If you cannot afford a lawyer (none is required by law) try to get the judge assign you a law office or law school to represent you 'pro bono' (free). Good immigration lawyers are rare (we heard a lot of horror stories) and the judge will know the better ones. Good luck!
Entering the USA-Green Card Lottery is free but not so easy, and beware of scams.
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My service is to help you to fill out and file your application correctly and on time, in person, over the phone or the Internet. Before this had to be done digitally I did this right in the USA on paper forms that had to mailed via the US Postal Service. Thousands of people gladly paid me 20 dollars each for the service.
Now I can afford to do the same thing electronically for just 10 euro per applicant. All you need is a telephone or VoIp service to dictate the information to me. The picture is the only thing that can be transmitted via the Internet, but you can mail it in, too, or show up in person to have me take it.
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Jerry Hoss PhD, USA-Immigration-Coach
Email: DV2010 ( at ) hush.com in English, Spanish, French or German
Jerry Hoss PhD, USA Immigration Coach
Web: http://www.usa-migration.org
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Ich selber habe 40 Jahre in Florida, Kalifornien, Michigan, Nevada und Ontario (Kanada) gelebt und gearbeitet und habe eine beträchtilche Anzahl Freunde und Verwandte legal nachgeholt. Auch mit der durch Internetwerbung und TV-Shows bekannten, alljährlichen so genannten ,Green Card' Lotterie, offiziell Diversity-(=Völkervielfalts-)Visa-Lottery, des US-Außenministeriums (Department of State) habe ich beste Erfahrungen.
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Weil der Vorgang inzwischen nur noch elektronisch abgewickelt werden kann, kann ich das jetzt für nur 10 Euro pro Antragsteller machen. Abzocker im Internet nehmen 40 euro und mehr, versprechen zu viel und garantieren nichts. Es ist erwiesen, dass einige von diesen Winkeladvokaten die Anträge gar nicht weitergeleitet haben! Auf der oben zitierten Webseite wird ausdrücklich von solchen illegalen ,scams' gewarnt. Siehe auch: http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/consumer/alerts/alt003.shtm
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Web: http://www.usa-migration.org
>>hi >>i came over here in 2001 with my 2 children to visit my boyfriend who [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Edward
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